Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Fwd: Ratified Implementations and specia

["Kevin Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I like this compromise
(option #3).  Thanks!

We'll have to
remember to update the template accordingly when we finally agree...

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From:
       Scott
Stark <sstark@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:
       Jakarta
specification committee <jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
       02/18/2021
11:47
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       [EXTERNAL]
Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Fwd: Ratified Implementations and special
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I'm fine with it.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 7:35 AM Ivar
Grimstad <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi,

Are we satisfied with Option 3?

https://deploy-preview-329--jakartaee-specifications.netlify.app/specifications/jsonp/2.0/ 

Ivar

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 8:44 AM Ivar
Grimstad <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi,

I just updated the PR with the third
alternative (proposed by Ed and backed by Kevin). So far we have the following
options to identify the CI used for ratification:

* Option 1: Mark with an asterix in the
list
* Option 2: Link in the release review
section
* Option 3: Link separately with the
other resources associated with the spec

If you like, I _can_ create one PR for
each if it is hard to keep up with the changes in the PR...

Ivar

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 8:30 PM Kevin
Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
For those of you
not on the public Spec mailing list (you all should be, but with the new
members coming on board, who knows?)...  This discussion started on
the public mailing list.  There is also a PR, which Ivar is prototyping
various solutions to.  I don't think we've come to a compromise solution
yet, so continued input would be appreciated.

https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakarta.ee-spec/msg01438.html
https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/329


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From:        Scott
Stark <sstark@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:        Jakarta
specification committee <jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        02/11/2021
09:10
Subject:        [EXTERNAL]
Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Fwd: Ratified Implementations and special
designation in the eyes of users
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I replied on the current JSONP issue that this looks good to me.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 8:28 AM David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Full disclosure, I hadn't noticed I sent this thread to our public list. 
Usually the private list is first in my auto complete.


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From: David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Ratified Implementations and special designation in the eyes of
users
Date: February 10, 2021 at 11:12:46 AM PST
To: Jakarta specification discussions <jakarta.ee-spec@xxxxxxxxxxx>

I appreciate there was consensus on today's spec committee call to mark
the implementation used for certification with a star.  We also commented
that if we would alternate the time of the meeting, we should do more over
email, so hopefully my feedback is welcome despite missing the meeting.

Can we find another way to document the implementations used for the vote?

I have many concerns about the concept of RIs.  A big one is the years
of difficult experience competing against an implementation the public
sees as special or more official than yours.  The fundamental tenant
of Advance Implementation Neutrality is to make sure we're not doing that.

If we want to document the implementations used for the Release Review,
can we simply include a link to the relevant CCRs in the "Release
Review" section of the page?  It could be right under the vote
totals after the text "The ballot was run in the jakarta.ee-spec mailing
list.  The CCRs used for the ballot were: [link1] [link2]"

This would have it documented, but the list of implementations would look
neutral and one would not stand out over the other.

Thoughts?


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