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On 10/09/2015 02:17 PM, Ian Skerrett
wrote:
I'd also like to point out that having 2 Germans and 2 Frenchmen
is a good balance for any PMC. :-)
+1
On 09/10/2015 4:03 AM, Jens Reimann
wrote:
+1 for the 1.0 release
After reading through the discussion, I do think releasing 1.0
is fine. Maybe even 1.1 to indicate that this is something
"fresher" than the sourceforge release. But I think you can
decide this best. What I understood is, after you mentioned
it, that Concierge has some history on sourecforge and this is
good enough for me.
For the graduation I still think it is best to wait a few
releases. I do think that it takes a few releases before one
can decide about maturity of a project. Even if you know your
way around Eclipse, each project is different. And as Kai
said, you never now what the future brings and how your first
(Eclipse) release turns out. So I think this is the right
decision.
And as Kai mentioned, maybe it is a German thing, or maybe it
is just me, but I would like to fully understand the situation
before I vote. So my intention is not to upset you!
And personally I really hope for another OSGi implementation
which brings R6 :) No matter if it is 0.1, 1.0 or graduated
;-)
Jens
On 10/08/2015 11:31 PM, Jan S. Rellermeyer wrote:
Okay,
that sounds like a good plan. Let me quickly (within the
margin of time zones) run the idea by the other
committers (and the dev-list in case somebody else has
an opinion about it) and I will then adjust the version
number in the release plan accordingly. I am not sure if
I need to re-submit my request for approval of the
release review documentation because of this change but
I will possibly do it just in case…
Regarding
graduation, I think you (Jens and Kai) brought up very
reasonable concerns and I see some improvements coming
to the project in the immediate future so I would
suggest I remove the graduation request, give the other
committer and me some more time to work on the material,
fix some of the pain points, and hopefully see the
community picking up our release to an extent that
justifies graduation more clearly. There is the
possibility of a minor release on the horizon for when
we got full IP approval for my OSGi REST reference
implementation to be moved to Concierge so I guess we
can target this as a possible time for graduation or
even wait for the next major release.
Re:
Possible Jens and myself are simply (too) German
No
prob, I’ve been there, too. 17 years later, some people
still think I am J
--Jan.
Ok, so +1 on a version >= 1.0 -
with the existing release 1.0 on SF, I would actually
agree with Benjamin that Concierge should consider to
directly go to 2.0.
So what’s your opinion on the
graduation part then?
@Benjamin: Are you suggesting that Jan
should release a 1.0/2.0/5.0, but does
NOT have to graduate at the same time,
but could stay an incubation project?
How can it be told that a project is
in incubation then?
Absolutely. vert.x for
example is still incubating, and releasing
>1.0 versions [0] since they already
had a “life” before Eclipse.
I’m just referring to
the Eclipse Development Process [1] here.
The only requirement is for incubating
projects to make it clear in their
branding [2] (bundle-name, features names,
downloadable ZIP distros, etc) that it’s
an incubation project. Also, the Wiki page
[3] about the requirements for releases of
an incubating project is pretty clear
regarding possible having >1.0
releases.
Possible Jens and
myself are simply (too) German and we
wanted to follow the rules as we
understood them for new Eclipse projects
("the Eclipse Way“).
There might be some
documentation that refers to the now
obsolete requirement that incubation means
< 1.0, so if that’s what got you
confused, please point us at the culprit
documents.
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