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Re: [ide-dev] News about Android Studio

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I haven¹t really looked at Buildship other than the EclipseCon
> presentations so I¹ll have to assume you¹re right. But to get started and
> remove this dependency as an issue until it¹s ready, we may have to come
> up with alternatives to make sure we have something by Neon.

AFAIK Redhat have already a patch that would allow that projects
configure Gradle accordingly. You can check with Max. If that is true,
we ONLY ;-) need to motivate Gradleware to accept patches. Currently
most PR on Github remain untouched.

Best regards, Lars
>
>>
>>
>>> On 2015-12-01, 11:38 AM, "ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Lars
>>> Vogel" <ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Mickael,
>>>>
>>>>I use Android Studio on a regular basis and it seems to me that they
>>>>moving more and more functionality to Gradle. AFAIK the target is
>>>>still to stay as much independent as possible from the IDE and
>>>>delegate as much as possible to the build system.
>>>>
>>>>Once the Gradle tooling has been extended to support Android, we
>>>>(Eclipse) should be a good alternative again for Android development.
>>>>Android Studio feel to us and our customers relatively buggy and slow.
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately the Eclipse Gradle project seems currently slow
>>>>(https://github.com/eclipse/buildship/commits/master), not sure if
>>>>they planning to work on Android support in the near future.
>>>>
>>>>Best regards, Lars
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> Android Studio recently released a new version. This good video covers
>>>>>some
>>>>> nice features https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2GC6P5hPeA#t=770 .
>>>>>Nothing
>>>>> very new, no big uber-powerful feature changing the game. This video
>>>>>is
>>>>>also
>>>>> a good opportunity to see the completion, quick-fixes and templates of
>>>>>IDEA
>>>>> in action. The features I find the most interesting are all already
>>>>>logged
>>>>> in Bugzilla and were already discussed there, so I won't get into
>>>>>details.
>>>>> There performance tools seem very good. It's IMO something we're
>>>>>missing in
>>>>> Eclipse IDE since TPTP was abandonned. As far as I remember, none of
>>>>>the
>>>>> main Eclipse IDE packages provide a way to profile or monitor
>>>>>applications
>>>>> under development easily. That's a major missing feature compared to
>>>>>Android
>>>>> Studio. However, it simply seems like it's not one our community
>>>>>wishes
>>>>>to
>>>>> invest into, probably because it's still not a top-priority in most
>>>>> end-users projects.
>>>>> However, my lack of general experience with Gradle nor C++ make me
>>>>>unable to
>>>>> evaluate what's good/bad in Android Studio compared to Eclipse
>>>>>BuildShip or
>>>>> CDT.
>>>>>
>>>>> For Android, it's interesting how they answer to the 1st question, ie
>>>>>most
>>>>> of the tools about Android development will move only to the IDE. It
>>>>>seems
>>>>> to mean that the SDK and IDE are going to be merged at some point, and
>>>>>that
>>>>> the IDE will be the single entry-point for development. That means
>>>>>that
>>>>>it's
>>>>> a lot of thing to duplicate in Eclipse IDE if most other tools are
>>>>>going to
>>>>> be dropped.
>>>>> Another interesting one is about sharing project settings, for the
>>>>>project
>>>>> specific configuration such as the "structural replace". It's actually
>>>>>an
>>>>> important question when you add into the IDE some checks that are not
>>>>> possible to "externalize" in the build or in independent tools. They
>>>>>do
>>>>> encourage to share the project specific files, like we usually do for
>>>>> Eclipse IDE:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.slideshare.net/AurelienPupier/committing-ide-meta-files-misc
>>>>>on
>>>>>ceptions-misunderstandings-and-solutions
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mickael Istria
>>>>> Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat
>>>>> My blog - My Tweets
>>>>>
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