| Re: [glassfish-dev] Future of Admin Console for GF 5 and GF6 |
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> I did update some of them and it is working well in my local environment.
That sounds great for us! Could you make a pull request?
> I think those also needs to be updated for 6.x.x branch.
In the near future (e.g. v6.1) we'll need to review the antiquated admin console, but for v6.0, I think we should focus on changing the namespace first.
So if there is a way to avoid errors in the admin console as it is, I would like to adopt that.
- Hiroki
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Subject: Re: [glassfish-dev] Future of Admin Console for GF 5 and GF6
FYI,
I have been playing with the admin GUI code for the past few days, and frankly the existing code is written in a truly old style JSP/JSF code (For me it is not nicely written :()
For the 5.1.1 branch, there exist a bunch of _javascript_ errors because of Dojo updates. I am not sure but, we need to update all the occurrence of webui.suntheme.XXX style with the require['module_name'].
For example:
Instead of using
webui.suntheme.field
we need to replace it with
require(['webui/suntheme/feld'], function (field) {
.....
});
I did update some of them and it is working well in my local environment. I think those also needs to be updated for 6.x.x branch.
Regards.
Gurkan
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:40 PM Gurkan Erdogdu <mailto:cgurkanerdogdu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Hiroki
I debug further on Glassfish 5.1.x admin console source code, it happens that some JSF scripts (for example, adminjsf.js) has loaded before the woodstock _javascript_ files (such as tree.js).
So, for example when you open the admin console page, the following method is called in adminjsf.js:
clearTreeSelection: function(treeId) {
var tree = document.getElementById(treeId);
if (tree) {
tree.clearAllHighlight(treeId);
}
},
It calls tree.clearAllHighlight(treeId); but when it calls this method, tree.js is not loaded yet therefore it throws errors.
I am still looking the source code to fix it.
Any help appreciated!
Regards.
Gurkan
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 6:10 AM mailto:sawamura.hiroki@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sawamura.hiroki@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
Excuse me for jump in.
Most of the current admin console _javascript_ failures are due to the upgrade of Dojo used by Woodstock. And this happened before the migration to Eclipse. [*]
I suspect that this Dojo upgrade work was interrupted before it reached GlassFish unfortunately.
[*] https://github.com/javaee/woodstock/pull/1382
Fujitsu (provides GlassFish based Application Server) also wants to make Eclipse Glassfish project (including admin console) usable in production environments. (I work for Fujistu.)
And, the groping for the solution of this _javascript_ problem is progressing on below the surface.
Thanks,
Hiroki
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Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [glassfish-dev] Future of Admin Console for GF 5 and GF6
Thanks Arjan.
I know there are some forms of forks as you said. Payara community is the great one, in the meantime.
I just wonder that do these forks merge their bug-fixes back into Glassfish upstream code base? I looked at the Payara issues (https://github.com/payara/Payara/issues) there were 133 issues at the moment and I thought that most of the issues are also valid for Glassfish.
As in Oracle case, there is only one codebase of the server, Oracle Glassfish.
So the question is that, if I support Glassfish project, do I need to contribute Payara, Glassfish or both etc? I know that this is somebit confusing.....
Actually I have an idea that we can implement a small kernel (trimming unused/uncommon parts of Glassfish such as Admin UI etc) and as a community including Payara, Hitachi etc. can contribute to this kernel and used it in their own products. Also new incomers can take the kernel and easily develop an innovative and competitive server.
Regards.
Gurkan
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:39 PM arjan tijms <mailto:arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
Well, to be totally honest, from my point of view at least, it's indeed not 100% clear what the meaning and future of the GlassFish Server project is. This question has been raised before and I don't think we arrived at a very clear answer.
The GlassFish project itself includes both the application server, as well as a series of components (Jersey, Mojarra, Soteria, HK2, etc). The components are reasonably "safe", as they are actively being used by various vendors (See https://arjan-tijms.omnifaces.org/2020/05/implementation-components-used-by.html) as well as standalone.
The GlassFish application server is individually distributed and certified by various vendors, either directly like Primeton Appserver or with some changes like Apusic ASS or with some more changes still like Hitachi Cosminexus. A somewhat special case is Payara, which once derived from GlassFish, but has now innovated greatly on top of the original code base and has thus become more of a server of its own (disclaimer, I worked for Payara).
Payara and Hitachi together lead the GlassFish project and are generously donating resources to push it forward in the way we're seeing it happen now, as is the previous owner Oracle. But none of them market or directly publish GlassFish itself. As Steve from Payara has indicated, the community needs to step up if they want to see more happening. As an independent contractor I'm one person who dedicates some time, but I also have the work for my customers to do, so that's unfortunately quite limited.
Hope this makes it a bit more clear.
Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 10:44 AM Gurkan Erdogdu <mailto:cgurkanerdogdu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As I understand (although I disagree with this), Eclipse Glassfish project is no longer considered as usable in production environments. One of the reason is that not releasing frequently and updating the codebase regularly. Frankly, I have not fully understood the meaning of the Eclipse Glassfish project.
Are we trying to have implement only useless RI? Should we see the Eclipse Glassfish as a school project? It seems strange to put a Admin Console UI that doesn't work correctly into the release.
I am more than happy to spare more time if I truly understand the project aim.
Regards.
Gurkan
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:18 AM arjan tijms <mailto:arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
I hear you, though the admin console itself it's not useless, just largely antiquated. And yes, not including it has been considered.
But even if excluding it for just this release, who has the resources available to create a new admin console? Without any plan it would be gone from GF indefinitely I'm afraid.
Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 10:03 AM Gurkan Erdogdu <mailto:cgurkanerdogdu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Its weird to include useless admin console into release. If it is useless, why we include it into the release?
Regards.
Gurkan
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 1:33 AM arjan tijms <mailto:arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Gurkan,
You're right, the admin console is not even antiquated in the output it generates, but even more in the source beneath it. With every release with have to drag the pre-historic JSFTemplate, Woodstock, and their dependencies along kicking and screaming.
I would not be surprised if GlassFish is currently the only application using JSFTemplate/Woodstock.
Rewriting the admin console using current day Faces could be done, but it's not a trivial task I'm afraid in terms of time. Having this taken care of for the GF 6 final release is basically undoable with the resource we have available.
Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 11:04 PM Gurkan Erdogdu <mailto:cgurkanerdogdu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi folks
I am currently looking over admin part (admin GUI) of the Glassfish and looks like that lots of error/bugs exist in the current code base. Latest browsers such as Firefox complaints about lots of _javascript_ errors and some pages are not displayed/run correctly.
Is anybody experience with the same? I think that the current code has not been updated regarding the latest browser compatibility etc.
I wonder that before releasing the GF 6 Final, do we need to have fully usable admin console?
Regards.
Gurkan
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