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Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] how to handle13proposals on a 4 slot allocation ?..

I did a first pass on the Java track, and noticed quite a few submissions
mislocated. I would appreciate some insights (see WRONG TRACK below) to
make further progress.

ACCEPT (TENTATIVELY)

http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3727     Java 7 Language
Features    Alex Buckley
--> strong accept. words directly from the java language team from Sun

http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3786     Unleash the
Power of Refactorings in your Products!   Tobias Widmer
--> accept. first talk ever from the JDT refactoring folks.

http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3768     Apache Harmony:
Developing the Java platform with Eclipse       Tim Ellison
--> weak accept. I know them to be fairly creative in their approach on
modularity. It could go in the OSGi track. Jeff ?

DUNNO YET, likely one story from the trenches would be nice.

http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3650     The Fine Art of
Reverse Engineering     Navid Mehregani
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3825     Threads,
java.util.concurrent and Eclipse Jobs: problems and solutions     Michael
Scharf
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3812     Java 5.0: A
developer experience    Marcelo Paternostro
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3885     Story from the
Trenches: Migrating from C++ to Eclipse   Sean Johnson

WRONG TRACK ?

http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3723     Runtime
monitoring and adaptation of applications from Eclipse      Angela Nicoara
--> wrong track ? someone from the "Tools" track to assess its relevance ?

http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3898     EJB
2(descriptor) to EJB 2(XDoclet) or EJB 3 (Annotations) using WTP and
JBuilder 2007     Ravi Kumar
--> wrong track ? someone from "Web Development" track to assess its
relevance ?

http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3883     Developing Java
applications with Test Automation   Patrick Smith
--> wrong track ? someone from "Test and Performance" track to assess its
relevance ?

REJECT (TENTATIVELY)

http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3876     Team
Collaboration with Eclipse and Maven      Jason van Zyl
--> reject ? redundant with a short tutorial (from same author), and given
we have too many submissions

http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3788     Introduction to
ICU4J       Charles Hornig
--> reject ? should rather be considered as a short talk, and btw not Java
specific, proposal for short talk is already there 3790



                                                                           
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Good point, thanks Jeff.

No reallocations have been made yet, and we have until the 30th to decide,
so I agree we should all take a look at the bigger picture before
proceeding.  Of course, there are 200+ Long Talks to review, and it took me
longer than I thought it would to go through them all.  I’ll record votes
my votes in all tracks, but will seem odd in the case of the Web track,
where submissions are already being accepted.

Hopefully, more of the PC can find the time to vote across tracks before we
accept submissions, and then decide on reallocations.

Best,
Rich


On 12/12/06 11:32 PM, "Jeff McAffer" <Jeff_McAffer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


      FWIW, I think it is premature to reallocate slots.   Rather I suggest
      that the various tracks prune assuming they are not getting any more
      slots and then collectively we look at the allocations and decide how
      to be shuffle.  Note also that in some cases it would be reasonable
      to move talks between tracks to get better balance etc.  There is a
      bit of a challenge due to the acceptance timing and the Christmas
      holidays but the sense I have from the tracks in which I am involved
      is that the community has not really been looking and the PC members
      have not been casting votes around.  As a result it is hard to get a
      bigger picture.

      As I have said before, it is very encouraging that so many sessions
      are over subscribed with proposals but the PC should focus on the the
      over all conference package as seen by the attendees and the
      community.

      Jeff



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      I’ve looked at the overall numbers for Long Talks and Panels and have
      the following summary with suggestions (allocations/submissions):

      Track       Long Talk   Panel   Comment
      Business      4/15       1/0    Convert panel to talk, or donate?
      C++           2/5        1/0    Convert panel to talk, or donate?
      Data          3/3        1/1
      Fundamentals  4/14       0/1
      Industry      2/3        1/1
      Java          4/12       2/1   Recipient of extra/donated slot(s)?
      Mashup        2/10       1/1
      Mobile        5/11       1/1
      OSGi          2/15       1/1   Recipient of extra/donated slot(s)?
      Reporting     5/10       1/0    Convert panel to talk, or donate?
      RCP           4/20       1/0   Convert panel to talk, or donate?
      SOA           2/5        1/1
      Technology    6/25       1/3    Recipient of donated slot(s)?
      Test          4/12       1/0   Convert panel to talk, or donate?
      Tools         4/7        1/0   Convert panel to talk, or donate?
      Web           5/17       1/2   Recipient of extra/donated slot?

      We have 3 extra Long Talk slots, which I propose are distributed as
      indicated above.  Otherwise, I believe we can do some adjustments
      among the tracks to better distribute slots where needed, based on
      need and interest.

      Please reply with your changes, donations, or other ideas on how we
      can create a balanced program.

      Thanks,
      Rich


      On 12/12/06 2:20 AM, "Tim Wagner" <twagner@xxxxxxx> wrote:

      In a similar position in WTP with around 20 submissions for 5 slots.
      I suspect we will rule out talks with commercial content as a first
      cut, though I have not discussed that with my PMC yet. Beyond that,
      we will look for a balance of broad vs narrow, tools vs frameworks,
      and current vs new technology.

      The only other option might be including an additional room/track to
      increase the number of slots available.

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      If it's any consolation, I have 15 business submissions for 4 slots,
      most of which are quite excellent.  I would advise trying hard to get
      the community to help you choose.

      - Don

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       On Behalf Of Valentina Popescu
      Sent: December 11, 2006 5:30 PM
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      13proposals on a 4 slot allocation ?..

      Folks,

      For the Test&Perf long talk track we have 13 proposals and only 4
      slots allocated.
      The plan is to group all proposals in such a way that there will be
      one proposal for the following topics : Test. Trace, Code Analysis,
      Monitoring

      This simple plan seems to be very hard to execute. It is almost
      impossible to squeeze 13 proposals under 4, especially since the
      presenters represent different groups. I did an initial attempt to
      reduce the number by adding a comment on the eclipsezilla track with
      the regrouping proposal. The result is an overflowing set of notes I
      am receiving from the presenters which clearly are not too happy with
      the proposal

      Does anybody have a similar experience and a better approach that can
      be shared?

      Is any other track having unused sits that can be donated to the
      Test&Perf section ?


      Thank you,
      Valentina Popescu
      Senior Advisory Analyst
      IBM Toronto Labs
      Phone:  (905)413-2412         (tie-line  969)
      Fax: (905) 413-4850

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