Re: [eclipse-dev] any way to enable the old "new" keybindings?

[Randy Hudson <hudsonr@xxxxxxxxxx>]

(This is the wrong mailing list for
this discussion.  Reply to the newsgroup if you have more to say)

There are plenty of valid reasons for
not rushing a new set of keybindings.  One reason is that the keybinding
preference page does not display collisions very well for compound accelerators.
 So, If you have CTRL+R, CTRL+I set to Refactor->Inline Method,
and you try to map Run... to CTRL+R, there is no indication that this conflicts.
 But the most important reason is that keybindings are forever.  Have
you seen the response to changing CTRL+/ to CTRL+SHIFT+C?  There is
only one chance to get it right.  It would be great if they were available
as a separate download so users could provide feedback.

I'm just guessing, but you should be
able to export your preferences (or maybe just keybindings) from a previous
build with the old-new bindings, and then import them into the latest eclpise
builds.  If you have questions about how to do this, ask at:
news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.platform

-Randy

Andrew Gaydenko <a@xxxxxxxxx> Sent by: eclipse-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx 03/02/2004 03:50 AM Please respond to eclipse-dev

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Travis,

I'm absolutely agree with you. I don't know the way such decision was accepted,
but I'm sure, the decision to refuse Ctrl-X-Ctrl-Y style is a _big_ error,
as a
new key map is in interference with all main OSes common key shortcuts
(at least,
I mean Linux and win32). Under this consideration, an example is commony
used
Alt-Shift combination for switching to national keyboard.

Moreover, Ctrl-X-Ctrl-Y style is very easy to learn as it has some logic
(Ctrl-K
is for editing, Ctrl-J is java-related, Ctrl-R is for refactoring, ...).
OTOH,
new keyshort resemble absolute chaos. I'm not old-unix-emacs-school person,
but
even for me Ctrl-X-Ctrl-Y style is easy to leran and understand.

I have noticed, sometimes it is very difficult for ordinary (java) developer
to
understand some decisions made by UI experts (which have not to be developers).
OK. To tell the truth, I don't see any reason, why it is impossible to
save 
Ctrl-X-Ctrl-Y style - may be as non-default.

Let's do not lose good job!

Andrew Gaydenko

======= On Tuesday 02 March 2004 10:31, Travis Hume wrote: =======
I just got back from a vacation today, downloaded the latest integration
build and found the "new" 3.0 keybindings gone!

I really liked the new keybindings.  Is there some 
super-secret-hard-to-find option to enable them?

Trying to use the original keybindings is proving to be difficult.

Thanks

-- 
Travis Hume
travis@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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