Re: [eclipse-dev] Combo packages proposal

[Jeff McAffer <Jeff_McAffer@xxxxxxxxxx>]

We have been battling with the packaging
issue for years (literally).  For every person that asks for the combo
pack, there is some one complaining that the SDK is too big.  For
every person who wants WebTools, or VEP or, ... there are people who don't.
 Given that we have some 8 platforms to consider, each new packaging
is quite a challenge to create, make available and maintain.  We also
have to consider the impact on our mirrors.  Combo packs do not scale
and they IMHO are fundamentally at odds with the component model put forward
by Eclipse (i.e., why should Eclipse get to ship a huge wad when we tell
everyone else to use components, update sites, ...)

Don't get me wrong.  The problem
you are encountering is real.  The approach I would prefer to see
is embracing the component model and make it easy for people to a consistent
set of the features/plugins they want.  For example, imagine a site
where you pick the base Eclipse version (e.g., 2.1.2, 3.0M6, ...), the
platform(s) and the components you want (by name).  The site then
picks the appropriate zips, jars, ... , combines them into one zip and
downloads it to you.  This sounds like an excellent opportunity for
someone with web service, web app, php, ... experience to contribute to
the Eclipse community in a real and tangible way.

Jeff

Miguel Griffa <mgriffa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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02/12/2004 12:36 PM

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Please, oh God! please do so
I find it frustrating to have to download these subprojects separately
and have to read to see which version should I download for my eclipse
version.
I think  I'd be a great help to these projects if they are more 
available for end users.

Sorry, for the comment not being a developer, I just think this would be
great.

Ed Burnette wrote:

>With tools such as GEF and EMF being used by more and more people and
projects, I propose that combination packages (which might be implemented
as nested features) that are bigger than the SDK be created and made available
for download. This will make it easier for users to identify, download,
and install the software they need in one step instead of many steps. Ideally
the schedule would be the same as the SDK.
>
>For example this combination would be helpful:
>
>    Platform SDK
>    Example plug-ins
>    FTP and WebDAV
>    GEF
>    EMF
>    XSD
>    VEP
>    WebTools (when available)
>
>Trying to match up version numbers for compatible features is a large
and growing problem, and combo packages would help fix that. Instead of
8 downloads, the user would just have one.
>
>--Ed
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