| Re: [agentic-ai-dev] Jakarta EE Roadmap Narrative: your input needed by Fri 16 Oct |
Folks, I am starting this thread as this is not an insignificant decision, and I want to make sure we are all aligned before I respond to the request. The suggestion here in the thread below is to include the spec as a pretty prominent part of the EE 13 platform (for perspective, that’s probably about 3 years out). This might be tentatively/directionally OK, but I do think in practicality the proposed positioning needs to be altered significantly. Let me explain my thinking but I really need folks in the project to seriously weigh in. As you well know, we are currently a standalone specification with no short term plans to seek inclusion into the platform. We have been clear about this from the start and this was one of the key factors considered during the specification ballot. You all understand the reasons behind this. We are forging new ground in a very rapidly evolving space. While I am pretty sure our ideas are well grounded and in line with what is going on in the space, the work is very clearly experimental. We might be exactly right or we may need to significantly evolve the specification in the next few years based on what we learn as we move forward. Being a standalone specification allows us the freedom to experiment and grow our community in directions that makes sense for us. It may mean introducing significant breaking changes to meet the needs of the space or it may not. Furthermore, we are clearly a long way away from broad vendor support. No other specification I know of in EE has been included into the platform under such conditions. In my view, the right time to begin thinking about being included in the platform would be when we are sure the API is pretty stable, we have real production users delivered through at least one high quality implementation, and we have clear industry traction. That might happen in the next 2-3 years and it might not. I personally have a hard time predicting that far out in the future. So here is what I am proposing. We should plan to stay standalone by default and continue to have releases working through the backlog we already have and whatever we discover in the future. After each release, we can evaluate where we are. If we feel the conditions are right to pursue inclusion into the platform, we reach out to the platform project and gauge their opinion. If they give us a favorable indication, we will seriously propose inclusion. Otherwise, we table the conversation until the next release. Can you please share your thoughts on this in the next few days? As you can see, I need to respond by Friday. Thanks, Reza On Oct 9, 2026, at 6:25 AM, Dominika Tasarz-Sochacka <dominika.tasarz@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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