Re: [wtp-dev] WTP JSDT call

["Gorkem Ercan" <gorkem.ercan@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 10 Nov 2015, at 17:04, Doug Schaefer wrote:

> Just as an update to the group, we have working QML parsers using 
> Acorn
> for CDT¹s Qt support and are working in extending tern.js to 
> understand
> QML objects. At the moment, we haven¹t tried to integrate that into
> Eclipse but will make a best effort of it to make sure it¹s fast and
> scalable.
>
> I¹m pretty confident we can make it happen and have already 
> contributed to
> Acorn for things we¹ve needed. I think that¹s an important 
> intangible in
> this discussion. If we need changes, the tern/acorn communities seem
> pretty friendly to us.
>
> Doug.

+1
This sounds excellent. IMHO extending projects like acorn/tern and 
integrating that
with Eclipse JSDT is a good way forward. I would actually consider JSDT 
done if all we have
in the JSDT repository is extension points and a curated build recipe 
for collecting the
implementations from communities out there.

All the talk we have about replacing/extending the current JSDT parser 
may sound like
we are trying to achieve the opposite. However we only update the parser 
because
JSDT's current functionality needs to serve us well until the 
communities create better
alternates.

--
Gorkem


> On 2015-11-10, 2:03 PM, "wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of 
> Gorkem
> Ercan" <wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of 
> gorkem.ercan@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > On 10 Nov 2015, at 10:35, Tom Schindl wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The question is what is the AST required for. eg
> > Tools mostly operate on AST, it is much efficient for tools to use 
> > AST
> > instead of the text document
> > for things like analysis, conversion, validation etc.
> >
> > > I've used Nashorn a
> > > while back to get a simple AST from JavaScript, although I think it
> > > does
> > > not yet support ES6 and it naturally does not do all the
> > > type-inference.
> > > Does anybody know how Netbeans does his JavaScript stuff? Do they 
> > > use
> > > Nashorn?
> >
> > I have not looked but it would be interesting to know.
> > > I tend to think in small services and an editor needs the following:
> > >
> > > Prio 1:
> > > -------
> > > * Syntax highlighting (lexical)
> > > * Outline
> > > * Autocomplete
> > > * Error-Reporting
> > > * Doc-Hover information
> > >
> > > Prio 2:
> > > -------
> > > * Syntax highlighting (semantical)
> > > * Refactor/Rename
> > > * Debug
> > >
> > > who are potentially totally decoupled from each other! Whether
> > > semantic
> > > highlight is important depends heavily on the language. I think for
> > > imperative languages it is not a must but for something like CSS it
> > > is.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > On 10.11.15 15:22, Gorkem Ercan wrote:
> > > > Hi ,
> > > > Today's agenda for the call is now online [1]
> > > >
> > > > We will be reviewing the renewal architecture [2] and try to 
> > > > discuss
> > > > and
> > > > hopefully
> > > > conclude on the proposals. I would appreciate if you can take a 
> > > > look
> > > > at
> > > > the discussion on [2] and contribute
> > > > either by attending the meeting, on the mailing list.
> > > >
> > > > Also attached to the agenda screencasts for the JS debugger that
> > > > Denis
> > > > has been working to revive. I feel that we are ready
> > > > to move forward with this work and contribute it to JDST.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > > https://wiki.eclipse.org/JSDT/Confcalls/Minutes_20151110#Meeting_Agenda
> > > > [2] https://wiki.eclipse.org/JSDT/JSDTRenewalArchitecture
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gorkem
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