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Re: [wtp-dev] Question on new contribution

Hi Rob,

Thanks for considering this contribution...  It looks promising with very interesting applications for WTP as you mentioned.  I agree with Doug its way too late for Mars at this point, but we should keep up the discussion for the next release perhaps Mars SR1.

Can you open an enhancement bugzilla to track your work, and we can discuss the contribution, the benefits over the current lanuch UI etc....

Thanks - Chuck

Senior Architect,
WebSphere Developer Tools, Eclipse WTP PMC Lead
IBM Software Lab - Research Triangle Park, NC

From:        Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>
To:        "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        05/18/2015 07:29 PM
Subject:        Re: [wtp-dev] Question on new contribution
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Hi Rob,

Actually, the dependencies from remote and launch bar aren’t any different than RSE and Terminal today. It uses the CDT native services for terminal type things and that’s about it unless I’m missing something.

But it’s really late in Mars to be doing much more. When is WTP’s next release? The next minor release for remote and launch bar should be in Sept with Mars SR-1. We should be able to add API and features to support WTP and other new users of these frameworks. We can do any required API clean up with a major release at Neon.


From: Rob Stryker <rob.stryker@xxxxxxxxxx>
"General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <
Monday, May 18, 2015 at 6:20 PM
"General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <
[wtp-dev] Question on new contribution

Hi All:

So, there's a new feature currently being developed in a CDT repo, but with ambitions to be used throughout eclipse, and moved to somewhere more conveinent. The feature is named "launchbar", and you can read about it here:

As you can see from the UI, it's intention is to streamline launching things.  Looking at it, it *does* seem like it'd be quite a nice fit for webtools.servertools, to "debug" "MyServlet" on "Some Tomcat Server".

I've developed a proof-of-concept which seems to work quite nicely so far, but to see it in action you'd need to have org.eclipse.remote (which is in the ptp repo for now) and a few low-level CDT plugins that it depends on.

I currently have my PoC over at:

Is there a place in webtools for such a contribution? I'd be willing to work with org.eclipse.remote (in the ptp repo) and org.eclipse.launchbar (in the cdt repo) to clean up their dependencies and make this easier to consume, but obviously only if webtools had an interest in such a contribution.

In its shortest form, it's basically a faster and more prominent way to execute the Run On Server action. Many users in the past have complained it was a bit hard to find that action, and launchbar is a very obvious way to make it more likely to grab their attention.

Unfortunately upstream APIs aren't quite what we'd consider "stable", and are still undergoing frequent changes. The o.e.remote addition is expected to be the next generation of RSE, and both that and launchbar are expecting Mars to be their 1.0 release.

I'd love to hear if there's interest in such a thing, and what requirements you'd all have as conditions (ie dep tree, etc).

- Rob Stryker
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