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Excellent question. The adapters/connectors will be
provided in binary form only (closed source), but the BEA license that they
will be distributed under will be very flexible and allow for
redistribution.
- Konstantin
Konstantin,
>To this end, BEA has made a
commitment to freely offer the
>WLS adapters that are currently part of BEA
Workshop to all
>of the WTP community.
I'd like a bit of clarity on this as "freely available" and
the "WTP community" can mean different things to different people.
Questions:
1) Will the connectors be open source or closed?
2) Under what license will the connectors be available from
BEA?
3) Will this license allow or prohibit
redistribution?
Thanks,
Todd
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Subject: RE: [wtp-dev] BEA WebLogic
Server support in WTP 2.0
Lawrence,
Thanks for the questions. It's good to have these
discussions in the open.
As you've noted, this move is consistent with the broad
WTP strategy of having server vendors provide and distribute their own server
adapters instead of housing adapters for every conceivable server type in the
WTP code base. Having said that, the plans presented in this e-mail should not
be interpreted as final. Until this e-mail, only a few members of the WTP
community were made aware of this and so the purpose of this e-mail (and
the copy that I posted to the wtp news group) is to gather comments and
feedback from the broad WTP community.
Some additional background information might be useful
here... The open-source WLS adapters that are part of the WTP code base are
built using Gorkem's excellent generic server framework which makes it
super-easy to throw together a server adapter, but does not yield in an
industrial-strength solution. Since their initial creation, these
adapters have not received much attention. It is of obvious benefit to
both BEA and WTP users who write apps for the WebLogic Server that the
WLS adapters are first rate. To this end, BEA has made a
commitment to freely offer the WLS adapters that are currently part of
BEA Workshop to all of the WTP community. This represents a substantial
investment on the part of BEA and we see this as big step forward for the
entire community. The reason that it is critical to retire the WLS adapters
that are part of WTP is that having multiple adapters for the same server
available creates massive amounts of user confusion. We've tried that while
building BEA Workshop and finally had to perform surgery on WTP distribution
that we ship on in order to remove the WTP adapters.
Let me know if there are any other
questions.
- Konstantin
Kosta,
Admittedly I haven't been following the development of
the server adapters shipped with WTP so my questions and comments that follow
may have already been answered. If this is the case, sorry for the
churn.
Your statement below sounds
like BEA made the decision to remove the WLS adapters without the involvement
of the WTP community.
1. Was the
WTP community consulted to see their reaction to this change?
2. Did the Server Tools component owner (and possibly
PMC) agree to the removal of the Open Source, EPL licensed WTP WLS server
adapters?
The move from WTP hosted
to BEA hosted adapters seems consistent with the WTP plan to have third party
server producers provide their own server adapters. However the move from Open
Source to proprietary adapters means these Open Source adapters will no longer
be available from Eclipse. Removing Open Source components in favour of
proprietary adapters may affect WTP users.
Thanks,
Lawrence Mandel
Software Developer
IBM Rational
Software
Phone: 905 - 413 - 3814 Fax: 905 - 413 -
4920
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For WTP 2.0, BEA is planning on providing server adapters
for versions 8.1, 9.0, 9.1, 9.2 and 10.0 of WLS that are downloadable from a
BEA update site rather than relying on WLS adapters that are currently bundled
with WTP. The adapters that will be provided will be taken from BEA Workshop
code base, thus extending the benefits of tight WTP/WLS integration already
enjoyed by Workshop users to the broader WTP community. In order to reduce
user confusion, the open-source WLS adapters that are currently bundled with
WTP will be removed from the WTP distribution and discontinued.
This change will be rolled out in stages:
Stage 1: The open-source WLS adapters will be
removed from the WTP code base and replaced with a pointer to a BEA update
site. The removed adapters will then be placed on the BEA update site together
with the source to comply with EPL requirements. This will happen in the next
couple of weeks.
Stage 2: The new WLS adapters will be rolled out to
the BEA update site (thus replacing and discontinuing the open-source
versions) to coincide with WTP 2.0 GA this summer.
How will this impact the user? In a basic WTP
installation, the user will no longer see WLS listed in the list of available
servers out of the box. The user will have to click on the "Don't see your
server listed? Click here" link in the "New Server Runtime" wizard. That will
bring up another wizard that will connect to registered update sites and will
allow the user to download and install WLS adapters into the WTP installation.
After the first install, the user will be able to use standard Eclipse
update-site facilities to search for updates to these plugins. BEA will also
provide a way to download a bundle of plugins containing the WLS adapters for
administrators who need to create Eclipse distributions for offline
users.
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