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[wtp-dev] Minutes of the WTP Status Telecon, 2006-07-20
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See WTP Status Telecons [1] for more
information.
[1] http://eclipse.org/webtools/development/status-telecons/index.html
Attendees
Amy Wu
Arthur Ryman
Chris Bealey
Chuck Bridgham
Craig Salter
David Williams
Der Ping Chou
Jeffrey Liu
Jochen Krause
John Lanuti
Kathy Chan
Keith Chong
Larry Dunnell
Larry Issac
Lawrence Mandel
Naci Dai
Nitin Dahyabhai
Rob Frost
Steve Francisco
Tim Deboer
Tim Wagner
Ted Bashor
1. Action Items [1] - Jeffrey Liu
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2 bugs found.
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=casesubstring&short_desc=%5Baction%5D&product=Web+Tools&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED
2. WTP 1.0.3 Build Status -
David Williams
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/pmc_call_notes/2006-06-13.html
7/20 - begin week-long-no-changes phase, adopter can/should do acceptance
testing
7/26 - prepare update site/zips, etc.
7/28 - official 1.0.3 release
David - All teams reported pass
Arthur - Do we have sufficient testing
against 1.0.3?
[action]
Jeff to ask for feedbacks from adopters and the WTP user community.
Arthur - We should also announce that
1.0.3 will be our last maintenance release for the 1.0 stream.
What if customer issues come up?
Arthur - We'll evaluate the issue. We
will not open another 1.0 maintenance release in the absent of requirements.
Tim - Preferred approach is to fix it
in 1.5.x.
David - FYI, there are about 20 bug
fixes in 1.0.3
2.1 Open WTP 1.0.3 Bugs [1] - Jeffrey Liu
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?classification=WebTools&product=Web+Tools&target_milestone=1.0.3+M103&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED
3. WTP 1.5.1 Build
Status - David Williams
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/WTP_Release_1.5.x_Maintenance_Plan_and_Policies
David - Not building well, JUnit not
running. John also reported some regression
David - Should we continue to smoke
test?
John - These regression concerns functions
such as deleting projects, adding things to EARs, etc. Other components
can continue to smoke test
David - We can do another round of quick
smoke test after these fixes go in
David - Highlight for the maintenance
plan and policies:
Changes to extension points, APIs, features
(including major UI changes) requires PMC approval. Send an email to the
wtp-pmc mailing list to reqest for approval
UI and PII changes should keep to a
minimal
Major dates:
8/15 Deadline for "Hot
bugs" to be proposed from adopters.
9/15 Release candidate
9/29 1.5.1 Release (as part of Callisto Maintenance Release)
1Q 2007 1.5.2
[action]
Jeff to add a paragraph about breaking changes to non-APIs
Ted - Does some sort of facet ID migration
utility sound like something we can put in for 1.5.1?
Ted - These are internal IDs that may
have changed between 1.0 and 1.5. There IDs are stored in the facet XML
file.
Arthur - Not something we want to do
in a maintenance release. Something that we should do for 2.0
3.1 Hot Bugs [1] - Jeffrey Liu
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bhotbug%5D&classification=WebTools&product=Web%20Tools&target_milestone=1.5.1%20M151&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED
3.2 Hot Bugs Requests [1] - Jeffrey Liu
[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bhotbug_request%5D&classification=WebTools&product=Web%20Tools&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED
David - Bugs 149670, 149673, 149807
and 149815. These JEE 5 enhance requests are too much of a change for a
maintenance release. In 1.5.1, we can probably do things like better toleration
for unknown artifacts
4. Component-level Planning - Tim Wagner
Tim - We have started the planning effort for 2.0. At
the project level, we have items like JEE 5 support, the primary supported
VM, etc. We also need some component level planning. I want to pull component
leads for inputs.
Arthur - Previously this was done using a mix of bugzilla
and milestone XML files. We should continue to use bugzilla to track individual
items, but we need something better for overall user/adopter presentation.
Proposal from Arthur:
On the telecon today we discussed the
use of Bugzilla as the primary way to record plan items. One of the problems
is that there will be a lot of items and we need a better way to group
them, for example, into Themes. I suggest we use the URL field in Bugzilla
for this purpose.
We should define Theme documents on the Wiki. These documents can point
to more detailed specs in our Web site. We should use the Theme documents
to classify the Bugzilla entries by entering the URL of the Theme document
in the Bugzilla URL field. We can then develop reports that group Bugzilla
entries by URL.
We can also use the Theme documents to provide some level of hierarchy,
say by adopting a naming convention for the URLs or using fragment ids
for subtopics on a Theme page.
In the past, we generated Milestone Plan reports from Bugzilla by running
a script and committing the generated report to CVS (which then refreshes
the Web site). This meant that the reports were always slightly out of
date. We should convert these scripts to PHP so they are executed on demand
and therefore always up to date.
Tim - Any items from individual components?
Tim - Alignment of the proxy preference pages?
Tim D./Chris - We need to make sure the Eclipse proxy
preference page will provide all the functionality that the WTP proxy preference
page provides. If so, we can remove the WTP proxy preference page.
5. Other Business -
Open
David - First WTP 2.0 milestone is 8/24. Theme is bug
fixes and Eclipse 3.3.
Arthur - Will we cut over to Java 5?
Not at this point.
Tim - Any support for annotation will need Java 5. Java
5 will be the primary platform. Dependency on Java 6 will need to be handled
delicately.
David - Just a reminder that we should not introduce unnecessary
Java 5 dependencies
[action] Jeff to
add Java 5 discuss to next week's agenda
Jeffrey Liu
IBM Rational Software
IBM Toronto Lab.
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