Likewise, with the caveat that I have some
duties with the BEA analyst conference also going on next week, and so may have
scheduling challenges.
From: Arthur Ryman
[mailto:ryman@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:01
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To: Naci Dai
Cc: David M Williams; STP Dev
list; Tim Wagner; General discussion of project-wide
or architectural issues.
Subject: Re: STP , BPEL and other
Eclipse Projects
+1
I'll
be at EclipseCon and would be happy to meet with the STP project members to
discuss inter-project cooperation.
Arthur Ryman,
IBM Software Group, Rational Division
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I
have been watching the STP discussions and pmc call notes for the last
couple of months, and some wit concern. It
is expected that each
project has some startup pains, but articles like
the following is
definite signal that some wrong messages are going
out to the world
(http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/03/16/eclispe_soa_ibm_oracle).
I am
certain that this is not what is happening.
STP by its nature has relations to other eclipse
projects like BPEL, and
WTP (service creation/wsdl and xml tools), and
other unique scope such
as support for JBI, ESB runtimes etc. These
relations have been
discussed in the mail list and pmc calls. One
thing is certain: STP,
BPEL and WTP projects must understand and
consolidate their
requirements. Duplicating work is not very
useful, and feeds
speculation, rather than encouraging
collaboration. STP will be a much
stronger and widely accepted platform project when
it builds on other
eclipse projects, not when it competes with them.
When projects
collaborate, often some code migrates from one
project to the other and
finds a more natural place, that is the beauty of
eclipse.
I would really encourage cross project face to
face meetings to take
place during eclipsecon. I will be
there, so would the rest of WTP PMC
and a large portion of our committers. I
will be happy to take the
initiative to facilitate it. Even if you are
not attending, maybe you
can find some proxies to convey your thoughts.
