[wtp-dev] Re: STP , BPEL and other Eclipse Projects

[Arthur Ryman <ryman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

+1

I'll be at EclipseCon and would be happy
to meet with the STP project members to discuss inter-project cooperation.

Arthur Ryman,
IBM Software Group, Rational Division

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Naci Dai <naci.dai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

03/16/2006 07:56 PM

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Subject	STP , BPEL and other Eclipse Projects

I have been watching the STP discussions and pmc call
notes for the last 
couple of months, and some wit concern.  It is expected that each
project has some startup pains, but articles like the following is 
definite signal that some wrong messages are going out to the world 
(http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/03/16/eclispe_soa_ibm_oracle).  I
am 
certain that this is not what is happening.

STP by its nature has relations to other eclipse projects like BPEL, and
WTP (service creation/wsdl and xml tools), and other unique scope such
as support for JBI, ESB runtimes etc.   These relations have been
discussed  in the mail list and pmc calls. One thing is certain: STP,
BPEL and WTP projects must understand and consolidate their 
requirements.  Duplicating work is not very useful, and feeds 
speculation, rather than encouraging collaboration.  STP will be a
much 
stronger and widely accepted platform project when it builds on other 
eclipse projects, not when it competes with them. When projects 
collaborate, often some code migrates from one project to the other and
finds a more natural place, that is the beauty of eclipse.

I would really encourage cross project face to face meetings to take 
place  during eclipsecon.  I will be there, so would the rest
of WTP PMC 
and a large portion of our committers.  I will be happy to take the
initiative to facilitate it.  Even if you are not attending, maybe
you 
can find some proxies to convey your thoughts.