[
Date Prev][
Date Next][
Thread Prev][
Thread Next][
Date Index][
Thread Index]
[
List Home]
| RE: [wtp-dev] flexible project & server api changes - please review | 
One of 
the main objectives of this proposal is to formalize api for declaring and 
discovering the functionality supported by various server types.  That 
said, the current proposal doc is incomplete in that it defines an 
extension point for declaring the features a server type supports, but does not 
define api for exposing this information.  Tim and the server 
component team can best comment on where this api should go (ServerCore, 
ServerUtil, IRuntime, IServerType, ?).  (As a side note, in the doc we 
suggested merging IRuntimeType and IServerType, but that's not critical to the 
proposal).
 
I 
definitely understand the schedule crunch and the reluctance to transition your 
extension api this late in the game.  But hopefully defining webservice 
technologies (which may or may not be appserver-specific) in terms of 
features which can express dependencies on other features such as J2EE spec 
levels, and storing these settings in project/component metadata, feels like the 
right thing to do.  If it was merely a matter of new extension 
points that support the existing server to project model, we would not be 
lobbying to do this in 1.0.  But since the feature model effectively 
inverts the current model, we think it's important to push this through 
now.
 
We're 
hoping that the API is fully in place by 6/3, and most componentType users can 
be transitioned in a matter of a week or two.  But that may be over 
optimistic in the case of webservices...
 
-Ted
 
  
I'll echo what others have said in that this looks like a good design 
  with worrisome timing, particularly for the Web services component, since much 
  of it sits on top of the J2EE and Server components. Here is a brief summary 
  of the impact and related concerns: 
Web service tools make extensive use of the API related to IRuntime and 
  IRuntimeType for defaulting and validation of component and server/server type 
  selection in the Web service/client wizards/pop-up actions. We're currently 
  using these API to do things like: 
1. 
   given a component, get a list of valid server types that component could 
  be associated with 
2.  given a 
  server/server type, determine whether is supports a particular J2EE 
  version 
3.  given a server/server 
  type, determine if it supports EAR association. 
With the removal of the runtime target API, as we know it today, we 
  would require new utilities to help us answer us these (and related) questions 
  using features. 
  
  
The webserviceRuntime extension point, which is 
  at the heart of the wizard framework, would have to be revamped in order to 
  identify module types and version numbers using features. Even if we left the 
  extension XML the same, the code that reads/interprets it would still have to 
  made feature-aware in order to make use of feature based utilities and 
  APIs. 
Also, Web service tools would be 
  affected by any modifications to the mechanisms used to programmatically 
  create flexible projects and components within them. I guess it's not clear to 
  me from the proposed design how or if existing operations like 
  WebComponentCreationOperation, etc. will be affected. 
The main concern lies with timing. The J2EE and Server 
  component work for supporting features needs to be mostly complete and 
  relatively stable before Web services work can begin, which, depending on the 
  final dates, could leave us with very little time, adding to the risk of 
  quality and stability problems in this component in M5. 
--------------------------------------------------
Rupam 
  Kuehner
IBM Rational Software
phone: 
  905.413.3859
mailto:rsinha@xxxxxxxxxx