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Re: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Prefer proper horizontal ellipsis (U+2026) over three dots in "Menu Item..."?

"she"'s a "he" ;-). But given argument is still valid. See also my reply to this.

Dani



From:        Brian de Alwis <briandealwis@xxxxxxxxx>
To:        User Interface Architecture Working Group <ui-best-practices-working-group@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        02.02.2018 15:16
Subject:        Re: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Prefer proper horizontal ellipsis (U+2026) over three dots in "Menu Item..."?
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Hi Andreas.

I asked Kit Lo, lead of Babel, about that somewhat recently and she recommended against it.  See her reply below, and discussion on bug 230381.

Brian.

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Kit Lo" <kitlo@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Use of ellipsis
Date: November 6, 2017 at 12:50:38 PM EST
To: Brian de Alwis <bsd@xxxxx>

Brian,

Yes, that still applies. Most English .properties files should only use ASCII characters... unless you really need to use some special Unicode symbols. But keep in mind that not all countries will understand the special symbols. Just a simple example, Americans use "#" for numbers, but many countries use other symbols for numbers and do not understand "#". Therefore, it's better to use simple ASCII characters in .properties files.

Regards,
Kit Lo
Eclipse Babel Project Lead
IBM Eclipse SDK (IES) Technical Lead


Brian de Alwis ---11/06/2017 12:31:07 PM---Hi Kit. On Eclipse bug 230381 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.eclipse.org

From:  
Brian de Alwis <bsd@xxxxx>
To:  
kitlo@xxxxxxxxxx
Date:  
11/06/2017 12:31 PM
Subject:  
Use of ellipsis




Hi Kit.

On
Eclipse bug 230381 you noted that:
\u2026 is used in the following key in org.eclipse.birt.report.designer.core plugin. It may cause conversion problems for some langauges during translation. Using plain ASCII text "..." is recommended. Thanks!
That was 9 years ago. I wondered if you still recommended this practice?

Brian.



On 2-Feb-2018, at 4:02 AM, Andreas Sewe <andreas.sewe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi all,

(Not sure if this working group is still alive, but...)

I just filed a bug [1] with Mylyn about a UI glitch in the Task View,
whose root cause is the splitting/shorting of the horizontal ellipsis
("...") we use by convention to mark actions that open a dialog. See the
attached screenshot [2].

Given that Unicode offers a dedicated horizontal ellipsis character
(U+2026) that renders typographically nicer (and often a bit shorter)
than three separate dot characters [3], I wonder if we should not
recommend its use.

AFAICT, U+2026 is available in all major fonts today, so I don't see a
big drawback to this proposal -- besides a slightly inconsistent look
during the transition period.

WDYT?

Andreas

[1] <
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=530642>
[2] <
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/attachment.cgi?id=272510>
[3] <
http://cldr.unicode.org/translation/characters>

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