| Re: [tractusx-dev] [reminder] Open Disscussion - Alignment to one diagram drawing tool |
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Hi Phil, as creator of the poll think we as committers have to hide the results, then also contributor can vote. Got the same problem with another contributor, seems every committer has the permission to show the votes/results, so if the committers want to see the current state of the voting, we
have to make sure to hide it afterwards so that also others can vote on the poll. For me I did not find a way to prevent this behavior:
Cheers Fabian Von: tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Im Auftrag von Phil Schneider [**EXTERNAL E-MAIL**]
Hey Andy, thanks for the quick replay. The question was more about voting in the
GitHub discussion, but for me, it is also
more than ok to share my opinion there as a comment
😊. Best regards Phil Von: tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> im Auftrag von Riexinger Andreas (BEG/EVC1) via tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> Hi Phil, thanks for asking! I am from the automotive PMC and also responsible for having a look on the governance within the automotive group. Voting for new committers and project leads (they are normally committers as well) is reserved for existing committers and project leads. (see also:
https://www.eclipse.org/projects/handbook/#elections-committer) Sorry, you can not vote, but feel free to share your opinion. Best, Andy Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Von: tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Im Auftrag von Phil Schneider Hey all, is it possible to open the voting for project contributors as well? Alternatively, I’d share my opinion on the topic as a comment in the discussion. Thanks in advance. Best regards Phil Schneider From:
tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of fabian.gruen--- via tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> Hi all, Just again a little reminder on the open voting: https://github.com/eclipse-tractusx/sig-infra/discussions/19 as stated in the Office Hour: https://catenax-ng.github.io/blog/Office%20Hours%202023-06-02#open-discussions J Thanks for your support. Fabian Von: Riexinger Andreas (BEG/EVC1) <Andreas.Riexinger@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Everyone, I am not sure if I will hit your question, but if you also talk about modeling, what about the Eclipse Coffee Editor (https://github.com/eclipse-emfcloud/coffee-editor)
out of the Eclipse modelling framework (EMF)… Just for thoughts … Best, Andy Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Von: tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Im Auftrag von fabian.gruen--- via tractusx-dev Hi all, thank you all for your input so far. For everyone to verify / checkout the purposed tools: PlantUML: https://plantuml.com Graphviz: https://graphviz.org Mermaid: https://mermaid-js.github.io/mermaid Draw.io: https://app.diagrams.net Are there some more thoughts or suggestions on diagram drawing tools? Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards Fabian Grün Reliability Engineer Mercedes-Benz Tech Innovation (ehemals/formerly Daimler
TSS GmbH) Wilhelm-Runge-Straße 11 89081 Ulm/Germany www.mercedes-benz-techinnovation.com
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Johannes.Zahn@xxxxxx <Johannes.Zahn@xxxxxx> [**EXTERNAL E-MAIL**]
Hi,
Within the IRS Team we also used plantUML and have good results. I never used Mermaid, but we can change if necessary.
Overall it is important that it can be version controlled and is therefore code based. Viele Grüße, Johannes
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tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
im Auftrag von "tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx" <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> Yes 😊 I’d be also in favor of a version controlled
approach. Both, PlantUML and Mermaid, support that. Both tools are good IMO. I think in the end it depends on the use case and needs which tool to use. I just found this video, may be a good summary: Kind regards, Evelyn Von: tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Im Auftrag von bjoern.roy--- via tractusx-dev
I would also strongly favor a version controlled code-based approach over a tool like Draw.io for all the reasons stated. Also, I still want to throw stuff at walls remembering all the time lost on good drawings with Draw.io due to unexplainable session-timeout-non-saviness using it integrated into
browser-based tools in corporate settings :$%&#* :-P Kind regards Björn Roy Chief Platform Architect | ITT/FA Enterprise Architecture @ Catena-X Technology | Craftmanship | Collaboration Building an ecosystem to empower IT engineers +49 176 30 90 100 7 Von: tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Im Auftrag von Hellmeier, Malte Hey Guys, We are also working with plantUML a lot for the same reasons mentioned by Paul. Draw.io is good for non-coding people but couldn’t benefit from a full version control. We should also remember the current shift of the documentation into KITs and standards, written in Markdown and hosted on the following page with Docusaurus: https://eclipse-tractusx.github.io/developer Would also be great to see some integrations there, like an automatic diagram generation via pipeline. Best regards, Malte -- Malte Hellmeier, M. Sc. Fraunhofer-Institut für Software- und Systemtechnik ISST
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Im Auftrag von Paul Latzelsperger Hey Fabian,
Personally I like plantUML because it is well supported in tools (VSCode, IntelliJ), is highly customisable and it can be easily version-controlled. Don’t know Mermaid, but I’ve used Draw.io
in the past, but just for quick drafts. Regards, Paul
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