Hi Bernd,
I can't reply to the old mail as I just joined the mailing list, but here are some of the added informations following your comments.
First we changed the gdoc link to be editable so you can annotate it and post comments directly on it.
We agree with the record button being in the LTTng control view due to the fact that only LTTng has its own custom view as a tracer. Although it would be nice to have it at the top to quickly start recording (kinda like Apple instruments).
The basic mode button would be at the bottom, next to the Record button (I think we'll do a quick drawing for that). I don't think it would be called basic mode button though, more like configurations or edit configurations. This way you could quickly record with default settings with the play (record) button or edit that configuration with the corresponding button.
Now that's where our dialog box would come in. Once the user has clicked the edit configurations button, he would be able to select profiles, change to advanced mode etc.
"
multiple checkbox selection for the profiles - basic
[Bernd] I'm not clear where the list of profiles for checkbox
selection will be located. In a separate dialog or separate view?
"
What we meant by that is that a basic user would have access to pre-defined profiles (that we would make ourselves) and only by clicking on the advanced tab could that user modify, create, and delete profiles.
"
Unified interface between profile edition and a wizard if possible -
intermediate
[Bernd] Not clear
"
We were thinking about a wizard for creating new profiles in the advanced mode.
"
[Bernd] What types of script shall be executed? Script to create
tracing sessions? Scripts to analyze a trace?
BTW, the LTTng Control view already has a way to run several command
line operations as a script.
"
I think we were just thinking about moving the button from the right-click dropdown menu to the LTTng view. Maybe we should scratch that if too many buttons were to be there.
Thank you for the comments, hope we clarified our ideas a bit, don't hesitate to comment on anything that's not clear enough.
Patrick-Jeffrey Pollo Guilbert
Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:49:10 -0500
From: Bernd Hufmann <bernd.hufmann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tracecompass-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [tracecompass-dev] Feature List for new Trace Compass UI
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Hi William
Thanks for the information and the upcoming work.
I have a few comments and suggestions. I copied the document content
below since I was not able to edit it. I added some notes starting with
with my name.
Best Regards
Bernd
Desirable features:
*
record button (on the main Eclipse toolbar) - basic
[Bernd] I would suggest to have that not in the Eclipse toolbar for
the IDE version (non-RCP). The reason is that the toolbar get's
crowed and some users of the IDE would not like that. I would
suggest to have it in the LTTng Control view coolbar because this is
the focus of your work. Right now there is no other tracer control
for other envrionments (e.g. PCAP, Perf etc.). For the Trace Compass
RCP, you could add it to the main toolbar but that should be treated
as a additional requirement.
The recorded configuration of a LTTng tracing session should be
stored in the XML format that the LTTng traces uses for "lttng save"
and and "lttng load" feature. Please note that the commands "lttng
save/load" are not yet supported in the Control view and need to be
added so that you can use it easily. The record, save and load
feature in the LTTng control view will be a great addition for Trace
Compass
*
Basic mode (selection of profiles and connection) a little similar
to a run configuration - basic
[Bernd] This sounds for me like a button to quickly select and run a
existing profile. Great idea. However I'm not sure where this will
be located. In the Project Explorer? Control view? Main Eclipse
toolbar and menu? If latter, then maybe a run configuration could be
considered for that.
*
multiple checkbox selection for the profiles - basic
[Bernd] I'm not clear where the list of profiles for checkbox
selection will be located. In a separate dialog or separate view?
*
Importing the trace after the tracing session - basic
[Bernd] The LTTng control view already has a remote import feature.
Is there something missing for your uses case? Please note that we
are going to generalize the remote import feature which will be
contributed to Trace Compass soon (see bugs
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=460847 and
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=460849). This will be
complementary to your changes.
*
Opening the corresponding metric according to the profile selected -
basic
*
Some way to edit the basic profiles - intermediate
[Bernd] Not clear
*
Unified interface between profile edition and a wizard if possible -
intermediate
[Bernd] Not clear
*
Toolbar button for automatic script execution - advanced
[Bernd] What types of script shall be executed? Script to create
tracing sessions? Scripts to analyze a trace?
BTW, the LTTng Control view already has a way to run several command
line operations as a script.
Sort the features between basic, intermediate and advanced users
[Bernd] Great, it makes sense to have an incremental approach and scope
the increments.
*
basic
o
Easiest navigation possible (not too many options)
o
Description on the option whenever possible
o
Automatic metrics according to the tracing selection
*
intermediate
o
Some more options than just the basic profiles
o
ways to explore the options and the possible outcomes when
different events are selected
o
this use case as a way to progress to an advance user if the
user wishes
*
advanced users
o
Imports scripts for the configuration, no need for interface on
that regard
o
automated tracing (usually Python script)
On 02/27/2015 03:54 PM, William wrote:
Hello,
We are a small team of engineering students at ?cole Polytechnique de
Montr?al working in partnership with Ericsson on the development of
new and exciting features for Trace Compass.
We have built a list of desired features for the new user interface we
would like to build, with the eventual goal of easing in new users
into properly tracing and displaying traces with the help of Trace
Compass. We would like to receive comments, feedback and ideas
concerning this list from the Trace Compass developers themselves.
Here is the link to the Google Docs we have created. You may add
comments/feedback as annotations to the document or simply reply to
this email.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nkX5CV0v0iYc9tvbUWmR1pN1EvhcOVrm4RN0jvaStbA/edit?usp=sharing
Thanks in advance,
William
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