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     On 21/04/2015 11:40 AM, David M
      Williams wrote: 
     
    I could go on and on
        about pros and
        cons of the release train, and its history, and it's purpose,
        but the bottom
        line is it should not be that limiting, to not be in it, 
     
    David, 
     
    I feel that I must echo what Doug just said a moment ago. This is
    clearly a false statement, and I am saddened that you think it true.
    Being on the train and in the EPP packages gets your software
    delivered to the desktops of millions of developers. Without it,
    you're just another plug-in trying to be noticed. It was that
    opportunity that interested Gradle in supporting Eclipse. This
    decision has harmed their business, and weakened Eclipse's position
    in the marketplace. I am particularly frustrated by the fact that
    100% of all the reasons given boil down to "that's the way we've
    always done it".  
     
    We are clearly in a position where the way we have always done
    things are now doing more harm than good. After we ship Mars we need
    to collectively get serious about changing our processes to be more
    agile, and responsive to the needs of our users. 
     
    
  
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