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Re: [tools-pmc] [CQ 3384] autoconf support files Version: varies
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I'm not sure I understand what's being requested here ... so, I'll give a
long answer:
1.
I think autoconf itself (http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/) is fine to
specify as an exempt-prereq, since its pervasive (similar to a JRE,
Operating System, etc.) and is simply used during the install.
2.
But what's attached to the CQ is a zip of 8 files that will be distributed
with your project code, as EPL, using the exception stated in the files:
# As a special exception to the GNU General Public License, if you
# distribute this file as part of a program that contains a
# configuration script generated by Autoconf, you may include it under
# the same distribution terms that you use for the rest of that program.
3.
And, in my opinion, it's up to the EMO legal staff to review those 8
files, and agree those 8 files can be distributed with your project code
as EPL (well, I guess 7 files as EPL, with the one exception of the
install-sh file, which would stay as MIT license).
If I understand those 3 points correctly, then +1 from me.
Fellow PMC members, please document your agreement, or not, to this
mailing list to satisfy the Eclipse Dev. Process, as documented in
http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/Eclipse_Policy_and_Procedure_for_3rd_Party_Dependencies_Final.pdf
Let me know if we need a phone call to discuss or understand details.
Thanks,
From:
Greg Watson <g.watson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
Tools PMC mailing list <tools-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
07/29/2009 12:39 PM
Subject:
Re: [tools-pmc] [CQ 3384] autoconf support files Version: varies
Sent by:
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Anybody have any comments? If not, I'd appreciate it if a PMC member
would update the CQ as per point 2 below.
Thanks,
Greg
On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Greg Watson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> According to Eclipse legal, the PMC needs to make a determination as
> to whether this dependency is a "works-with" or "pre-req" (see
http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/Eclipse_Policy_and_Procedure_for_3rd_Party_Dependencies_Final.pdf
> for more details).
>
> To summarize the situation, PTP requires the following components to
> be distributed as C source code:
>
> - a parallel debugger
> - a resource manager agent to interface to the IBM PE system
> - a resource manager agent to interface to the LoadLeveler job
> scheduler
> - a resource manager agent to interface to the SLURM job scheduler
>
> The components are distributed as source code because maintaining
> binary builds for all possible architectures is impractical (we did
> this for early releases of PTP and found that it quickly became a
> support nightmare.) Distributing as source code overcomes some
> problems, but introduces others. In particular, building from source
> is complicated because of the dependencies on pre-installed system
> software and libraries. To overcome this, we currently use the
> autoconf/automake tools to manage the build dependency issues.
>
> Unfortunately, autoconf/automake requires a small number of files be
> distributed with the source code in order to correctly configure and
> build the source. Nearly all of these support files are GNU
> licensed, but include the following license exemption:
>
> # As a special exception to the GNU General Public
License, if you
> # distribute this file as part of a program that contains
a
> # configuration script generated by Autoconf, you may
include it
> under
> # the same distribution terms that you use for the rest
of that
> program.
>
> One other file is licensed under the MIT public license.
>
> I believe these dependencies fall into the "exempt pre-req" category
> for the reasons listed in the CQ, but now throw it open to
> discussion by the PMC.
>
> I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have about this CQ.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> this CQ is to approve
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 6:33 AM, emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3384
>>
>>
>> Barb Cochrane <barb.cochrane@xxxxxxxxxxx> changed:
>>
>> What |Removed |Added
>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Severity|new |awaiting_pmc
>> Flag|PMC_Approved+ |
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Comment #8 from Barb Cochrane <barb.cochrane@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> 2009-07-21 09:31:14 ---
>> (In reply to comment #7)
>>> Barb,
>>>
>>> I'd say this this falls into the "exempt prereq" category for the
>>> following
>>> reasons:
>>>
>>> - the third party software is required for the software to work
>>> correctly (in
>>> this case it is required for installation rather than operation)
>>> - the third party software is pervasive
>>> - it is probably impractical to undertake an IP review
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>> Thanks Greg. The process for reviewing "exempt pre-reqs" is
>> documented in the
>> link on comment6, I would very roughly summarize it as follows:
>>
>> 1) PMC has a transparent discussion and conclusion on PMC mailing
>> list (please
>> see link for details regarding topics for consideration, in
>> addition to any
>> other items the PMC and project may identify)
>> 2) PMC updates this CQ with a note that the discussion has
>> happened, a link to
>> it, and a vote (+1, -1)
>> 3) EMO votes on this CQ
>>
>> I will reset the vote and mark this CQ in "awaiting PMC" state
>> until we see an
>> update that the discussion has happened on the PMC mailing list.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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