Re: [tools-pmc] [CQ 3384] autoconf support files Version: varies

[Greg Watson <g.watson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Anybody have any comments? If not, I'd appreciate it if a PMC member  
would update the CQ as per point 2 below.

Thanks,

Greg

On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Greg Watson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> According to Eclipse legal, the PMC needs to make a determination as  
> to whether this dependency is a "works-with" or "pre-req" (see http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/Eclipse_Policy_and_Procedure_for_3rd_Party_Dependencies_Final.pdf 
>  for more details).
>
> To summarize the situation, PTP requires the following components to  
> be distributed as C source code:
>
> - a parallel debugger
> - a resource manager agent to interface to the IBM PE system
> - a resource manager agent to interface to the LoadLeveler job  
> scheduler
> - a resource manager agent to interface to the SLURM job scheduler
>
> The components are distributed as source code because maintaining  
> binary builds for all possible architectures is impractical (we did  
> this for early releases of PTP and found that it quickly became a  
> support nightmare.) Distributing as source code overcomes some  
> problems, but introduces others. In particular, building from source  
> is complicated because of the dependencies on pre-installed system  
> software and libraries. To overcome this, we currently use the  
> autoconf/automake tools to manage the build dependency issues.
>
> Unfortunately, autoconf/automake requires a small number of files be  
> distributed with the source code in order to correctly configure and  
> build the source. Nearly all of these support files are GNU  
> licensed, but include the following license exemption:
>
> 	# As a special exception to the GNU General Public License, if you
> 	# distribute this file as part of a program that contains a
> 	# configuration script generated by Autoconf, you may include it  
> under
> 	# the same distribution terms that you use for the rest of that  
> program.
>
> One other file is licensed under the MIT public license.
>
> I believe these dependencies fall into the "exempt pre-req" category  
> for the reasons listed in the CQ, but now throw it open to  
> discussion by the PMC.
>
> I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have about this CQ.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> this CQ is to approve
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 6:33 AM, emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > http://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3384
> >
> >
> > Barb Cochrane <barb.cochrane@xxxxxxxxxxx> changed:
> >
> >          What    |Removed                     |Added
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >          Severity|new                         |awaiting_pmc
> >              Flag|PMC_Approved+               |
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Comment #8 from Barb Cochrane <barb.cochrane@xxxxxxxxxxx>   
> > 2009-07-21 09:31:14 ---
> > (In reply to comment #7)
> > > Barb,
> > >
> > > I'd say this this falls into the "exempt prereq" category for the  
> > > following
> > > reasons:
> > >
> > > - the third party software is required for the software to work  
> > > correctly (in
> > > this case it is required for installation rather than operation)
> > > - the third party software is pervasive
> > > - it is probably impractical to undertake an IP review
> > >
> > > Greg
> > Thanks Greg.  The process for reviewing "exempt pre-reqs" is  
> > documented in the
> > link on comment6,  I would very roughly summarize it as follows:
> >
> > 1)  PMC has a transparent discussion and conclusion on PMC mailing  
> > list (please
> > see link for details regarding topics for consideration, in  
> > addition to any
> > other items the PMC and project may identify)
> > 2)  PMC updates this CQ with a note that the discussion has  
> > happened, a link to
> > it, and a vote (+1, -1)
> > 3)  EMO votes on this CQ
> >
> > I will reset the vote and mark this CQ in "awaiting PMC" state  
> > until we see an
> > update that the discussion has happened on the PMC mailing list.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Auto-Generated Text:  IPTeam awaiting response from PMC.
> >
> >
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