Ed said:
> Many rules is a relative term and for those of us who are
poor at following
> rules it will always seem like many. I've been around
since 2002, so the
> changes seem to have happened often, though over a long
period of time.
> Perhaps that's just my perception though. I've often
thought I understood
> the rules only to find that I didn't, or they weren't how I
remembered them.
I’ve been a committer since 2002 as well, and those are my
sentiments exactly. While I try pretty hard to stay on top of them, I’m
never confident that the rules haven’t changed out from under me. When in
doubt I sometimes turn to Bjorn, who in my opinion have been doing a great job
at evolving, managing, and communicating the rules. But I think it’s fair
to say that the rule set is complex enough that no single person can stay on
top of it without some checks and balances. I tried hard to stay on top
of the Incubator rules when Mylyn was in that state, and did not understand the
Incubator release distinction until Mike pointed it out either (perhaps it was
added after, but not knowing whether it was is part of my problem).
The following page is awesome (and it just taught me about
Prominent Announcements): http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/three-laws-of-eclipse.php
If we could end up with a collection of up to 5 pages like this,
linked from an obvious place, that would be great. The other thing that I
think would really help is if I had a way of being notified of changes to the
relevant documents. What could work well is if there was something along
the lines of a process-inbox@xxxxxxxxxxx,
and every significant rule change or amendment had a corresponding Bugzilla
task, and all project leads watched that inbox.
Mik
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[mailto:tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:36 PM
To: Ed Merks
Cc: Tools PMC mailing list
Subject: Re: [tools-pmc] Re: tools-pmc Digest, Vol 19, Issue 13
Ed,
Don't get confused, get even :-)
No, seriously, your confusion is entirely due to my error here. My error is
that I didn't know that incubators can't do releases. I probably knew once, but
I forgot. So when I wrote up the diagram and the guidelines, I included
incubators doing releases. And incubators have been doing releases on my
say-so, apparently against the rules. Sigh.
- Bjorn
This is exactly the type of thing that sends me into fits of confusion. If
they can't have a release, then a release review seems to be meaningless.