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Yes, I've just confirmed that there are a number of
recent changes to
the Phoenix theme which aren't in Lazarus. I'm pulling these across
now and testing it out. I've raised a bug to attach my Lazarus update
I suggest we revisit the issues after that's gone in.
On 21/11/06, Jeff McAffer <Jeff_McAffer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hey Matt,
> Matt Chapman wrote on 11/21/2006 09:06:09 AM:
> > I created the Lazarus theme by cloning the Phoenix theme
> > changing the top banner. There was never any intention
> > fonts or link colours. Since then, various changes have
been made to
> > the Phoenix theme and to other parts of the Phoenix infrastructure,
> > and I think that has resulted in some of these issues:
> Thanks for the answers. The issues I'm raising here are the
same as the
> ones I (and others) raised against the main eclipse.org site. For
> part these have been addressed there. Perhaps Lazarus needs
to be updated
> with the same fixes.
> > 1. Fonts. It looks like you've pressed the large 'A' to increase
> > font size. If you select the smaller size, do the fonts
> > the same between the two pages? This font size control
> > since Lazarus was created. If you prefer this control instead
> > using your browser's font size control (such as Control-+),
> > could look at adding the control to Lazarus.
> Yes A has been pressed. Without that all of the eclipse.org
fonts are too
> small. For me and many other people.
> > 2. Browser width. If the width of the browser window is too small,
> > the top nav links overlap or get truncated. The same issue
> > to both themes, it's just that the layout of Lazarus means
> > the issue first. I originally made sure that the Lazarus
> > looked ok down to a width of around 800 pixels, but since
> > have been added to the top nav section, which means that
> > width is now around 1000 pixels, which is rather too high.
> Yes, 1000 is quite wide.
> > 3. Links not visible. I don't follow this one - I can see the
> > in your screenshot. Maybe it's because of the difference
> > size - at the same size, do the links then show in the
> The standard font setup relies on font color to indicate links. Perhaps
> is just my eyes or my computer but dark purple 8 point font is
> indistinguishable from black 8 point font. As a result, you
look at a page
> and cannot tell where any of the links are. With the alternate
> setup, the links show up as bold and purple and are quite easy to
> > 4. Main content width. This is not related to the theme. If the
> > browser doesn't believe it can fit a section in, it moves
> > The difference between the two pages is that the Tools
> > have a right-hand column and so the main section is wider.
> > midcolumn block on this page is given a width of 80%, to
> > space that would otherwise be taken up with a right-hand
> > this is arbitrary because the left-hand column is given
> > width of 140 pixels. So we really want the midcolumn to
have a width
> > of ( window.width - 140 - margins), but I believe this
> > by making the column narrower, leaving whitespace or adding
> > hand column - if there is some content relating to the
> > that we could add here.
> Right. The challenge here is that users have to make their browsers
> largish minimum width to use the site.
> > By the way, to see what the tools page looks like under the default
> > Phoenix theme, change Lazarus to Phoenix in this line in
> > $theme = "Lazarus";
> Yup. I'm sure this would work.
> In the end I don't really care about the look but people should not
> "jarred" when moving from one project to another (e.g.,
I have to change
> broswer font sizes to use the Tools page but no others). The
way it is now,
> navigating from the projects page to all the top level projects looks/works
> fine except the Tools project (and the ones that have not converted
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