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Re: [tm-dev] Opening a connection in TerminalView programatically

Hi Uwe, 

Thanks for the info. If I understand correctly, this instantiates only a 'control' not a 'view'. 
This is perhaps what we'll have to do eventually. And if we decide to go that route, your info will be
very helpful.

However, I was hoping to just be able to plugin to the existing terminal view. 
I.e. I mean the class 'org.eclipse.tm.internal.terminal.view.TerminalView'. This is a complete UI to manage terminal connections, not just a widget that still needs to be placed inside of a view. It pretty much does what we want.

So I think it would be nice if the 'TerminalView' provided some simple public API to open connections and manage them programatically (i.e so you can programmatically do more or less the same stuff a user can do via its UI). 
I hope that you agree this is desirable, even if you probably don't want to be the one to have to implement it :-) 

I couldn't really figure out how to do what I wanted with the available API (on the TerminalView class) but I came up with this hacky (yuck! :-) piece of code that works: 

	private static Object call(Class<?> cls, String name, Class<?>[] types, Object obj, Object... args) {
		try {
			Method m = cls.getDeclaredMethod(name, types);
			return m.invoke(obj, args);
		} catch (Exception e) {
			throw new Error(e);

	 * Programatically open a new terminal for a given terminal connector (i.e. instead of
	 * popping up a settings dialog to fill in connection details, the connector
	 * should already have all its details pre-configured by the caller.
	public static void newTerminal(TerminalView tv, ITerminalConnector c) {
		call(TerminalView.class, "setupControls", new Class[0], tv);
		if(c!=null) {
			call(TerminalView.class, "setConnector", new Class<?>[] {ITerminalConnector.class}, tv, c);

Originally, I had this 'newTerminal' method added as an instance method in the TerminalView class. 
But I decided to move it into our own code base for now and use reflection hackery. But I could imagine contributing a method
like that as a small patch instead.

With this method in place, it is possible for me to create a pre-configured 'ITerminalConnector' instance and ask the terminal view to open a terminal with that 'UI-less' connector.

If you think it would be worthwhile to add some api like this (and maybe later also some more methods to programatically manage the connection history as well), then this is something I might be interested in creating a patch for.


----- Original Message ----- 

> Hi Kris,

> In short, the method to create a is the following

> ITerminalViewControl terminal = TerminalViewControlFactory.
> makeControl (terminalListener, parent, new ITerminalConnector[] {
> connector }, true );

> terminal.setConnector(connector);
> terminal.connectTerminal();

> You are right that all this is living in internal packages, but as a
> matter of fact, it is the terminal API. Creating a public API is
> tracked in bugzilla
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=259271 , but I doubt
> that this will ever happen, at least not without creating a âTM
> Terminal 4.0â.

> If you need a closer look to the usage of the above methods, it is
> from o.e.tcf.te.ui.terminals.tabs.TabFolderManager. The Target
> Explorer is providing a tabbed terminal view on top of the TM
> terminal widget. And the Target Explorers âRemote Applicationâ
> launch configuration type is using the Terminal for presenting the
> remote I/O of the application. So you might be able to get some
> ideas from there.

> And any kind of contribution will be always welcome.

> Best regards, Uwe J

> From: tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Kris De Volder
> Sent: Freitag, 12. Oktober 2012 21:28
> To: tm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tm-dev] Opening a connection in TerminalView
> programatically

> Hi all, I'm trying to reuse the TerminalView in our Grails tooling
> (see https://github.com/SpringSource/grails-ide ).
> We want to use this to launch and connect to an external grails
> process and display the output of this process (uses ANSI to make
> some colored text etc).

> I was pretty quickly able to create a new GrailsTerminalConnector
> with its own 'settings page' to allow a user to connect to the
> grails process.
> So I was pretty pleased with how nice and easy this was.

> Unfortunately, this is not precisely what we want. What we want is a
> 'UI-less' connection that is programmatically instantiated by our
> tools whenever they execute a grails command. I'm really stuck.
> Looking around the code reading comments etc. it seems like there is
> clearly the intention for this to be possible. E.g
> - the 'hidden' attribute on the extension point
> - some comments on the
> 'org.eclipse.tm.internal.terminal.provisional.api.ITerminalConnector.makeSettingsPage()'
> method talk about 'UI-less' connectors.

> However, as far as I've been able to figure out the methods of
> terminal view for opening connection programmatically are simple not
> available or private.

> Maybe I'm missing something and/or not looking in the right place?

> If it is possible, I would appreciate a pointer on how to work with
> 'UI-less' TerminalConnector instances. (E.g. a pointer to some code
> doing this in one of the projects would help a lot).

> If this is in fact not (yet) possible, I would be interested in
> making it possible by preparing a patch (but before jumping into
> that, I'd figure I'd at least ask here and get some input).

> Thanks for your time,

> Kris De Volder
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