Re: [technology-pmc] [epp-dev] EPP Policy on committers and package main

[Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello? Is this thing on?

Wayne

On 12/06/2011 11:02 AM, Wayne Beaton wrote:

I would like to see EPP just move ahead with the committer elections.

I'm pretty sure that the rest of the PMC agrees, but how about a couple of +1s, folks?

Wayne

On 12/06/2011 10:42 AM, Markus Knauer wrote:

Hi Technology PMC,

this is where we stopped our discussions some weeks ago, now we have the first committer election on the epp-dev mailing list and I know that another case is in the pipeline. In both cases it is important to get the new committers on board very soon, so it is time to resolve this issue here...

Reading all the PMC mails I can see that all of you agree that the policy at http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPP/EPP_Committer_and_Maintainer_Policy makes sense and is required by the EPP project to keep the packages alive. How can we move this forward and how can I help? Any suggestions by the PMC or should we just go on with our elections?

Thanks,
Markus

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:26, Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I agree with your assessment. I would add that the Tools Charter needs a
rewrite at least as much as Technology. Adding frameworks to it might be the
obvious thing to do.

Personally, I would separate what you call releng into two different things.
Orbit and EPP are really Eclipse community process artifacts. Hudson, m2e,
JGit and the like are starting to form an interesting server-side ALM stack,
with tools. Mylyn is our current ALM TLP, but its charter specifically
excludes server-side as I recall.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Konstantin Komissarchik [mailto:konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: November-08-11 3:52 PM
> To: mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'Technology PMC'
> Subject: RE: [technology-pmc] [epp-dev] EPP Policy on committers and
> package maintainers?
>
> Of course, Tools has ceased being an effective catch-all as soon as scope
of
> projects at Eclipse has expanded beyond tooling. Some of that has been
> worked around by creating additional top-level projects for work that
> wouldn't reasonably fit into Tools (Runtime, Modeling, etc.), but there
are
> other categories that don't have a home outside of Technology today...
>
> 1. Releng... Orbit, EPP, m2e, hudson, etc.
> 2. Application Development Frameworks... Sapphire, Scout, etc.
>
> There are more such categories, I am sure.
>
> - Konstantin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike
> Milinkovich
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 12:20 PM
> To: 'Technology PMC'
> Subject: Re: [technology-pmc] [epp-dev] EPP Policy on committers and
> package maintainers?
>
>
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > +1 on revising Technology Project charter. Given the diversity of

> > +projects

> > at Eclipse, there are many projects that do not fit into any of the
> existing top-
> > level projects. We either start creating a lot of top-level projects
> > or we
> treat
> > Technology Project as a catch-all for what doesn't fit into other
> top-level
> > projects.
>
> Historically, the intent was always that both Technology and Tools were
> "catch-alls". Technology was for research and experimentation, and Tools
> was for product-ready but-doesn't-fit-anywhere-else.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> technology-pmc mailing list
> technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/technology-pmc
>


_______________________________________________
technology-pmc mailing list
technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/technology-pmc

--

###
EclipseSource Group
Telefon: +49 721 664733-0 (GMT +2)
Telefax: +49 721 66473329

http://eclipsesource.com



Innoopract Informationssysteme GmbH
Lammstrasse 21, 76133 Karlsruhe Germany 
General Manager: Jochen Krause
Registered Office: Karlsruhe, Commercial Register Mannheim HRB 107883

  
_______________________________________________
technology-pmc mailing list
technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/technology-pmc

--
Wayne Beaton
The Eclipse Foundation
Twitter: @waynebeaton

_______________________________________________
technology-pmc mailing list
technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/technology-pmc

--
Wayne Beaton
The Eclipse Foundation
Twitter: @waynebeaton