Hi Marc,
         
        And
            sorry for the slow reply… So the problem with putting
            Mangrove in the simultaneous release is that it has plugins
            that depend on the old BPMN editor. These plugins are
            grouped in the Mangrove BPMN feature so if Mangrove were to
            join the release it would need to have this feature out...
            Also I haven’t started work on the Stardust integration
            which would be natural to have in the release if Stardust is
            also going to be part of it. 
         
        On
            the other hand, perhaps we could have a stripped-down
            version of Mangrove joining the release, the core, the SCA
            connectivity, and maybe a few other things, not sure whether
            this makes sense? But I’m open to any suggestions/requests
            and if it does actually make sense to join then I think we
            can...
         
        Any
            thoughts?
        
            Adrian.
         
        
          
            From: Marc Dutoo [mailto:marc.dutoo@xxxxxxxxxxx]
                
                Sent: jeudi 8 décembre 2011 12:04
                To: SOA PMC mailing list
                Cc: Mos, Adrian
                Subject: Re: [soa-pmc] Mangrove not in Juno
           
         
         
        Hi Adrian
          
          Mangrove not in Juno ? Really too bad, at JWT we'd have to
          remove our Mangrove plugins for the simultaneous release...
          
          Regards,
          Marc
          
          
          Le 08/12/2011 11:04, Marc.Gille@xxxxxxxxxxx
          a écrit : 
        Awesome, Adrian.
         
        Let me know if you have
            questions.
         
        Marc
         
        
         
        Hi Marc,
         
        This is great news.
            Looking forward to looking at the modeller code for Mangrove
            connectivity as soon as I get some time!
         
        Adrian.
         
        
         
        Thanks, Adrian.
         
        We were actually planning
            to sign-up for Juno with Stardust. We have 30% of the code
            (all modeler code) approved and in Github. We will submit
            the Kernel code for IP check this week and hope to belief in
            January.
         
        Marc
         
        
         
        Hi guys,
         
        After considering the pros/cons of signing up
            Mangrove for Juno, I think that the best option is to skip
            Juno. The reasons are as follows:
        -          The current BPMN editor is being archived
        -          The new BPMN editor will not be in Juno
        -          Stardust will not be in Juno
        -          Engineering are still using the old code-base,
            I think the migration from STP-IM to Mangrove should be
            complete before committing to Juno, as there might be
            changes needed and I don’t know when these would occur
         
        Overall I don’t see much value of putting it
            into Juno now and I’d rather benefit from the freedom of
            adding and changing stuff to it anytime than be restricted
            by the Juno code-freeze and so on.
        
            Any thought on this? If there is no strong opinion to pursue
            Juno for Mangrove, I’ll stick to this idea.
         
        Adrian.
        
            
            
            
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