| +1   I know 
we had a few last minute hiccups on the Galileo train but managed to hang 
on.   Doug 
  +1
  
 3 is a good number.  just need one more... 
 
  On 2010-01-07, at 7:42 AM, Thomas Watson wrote: 
    
    _______________________________________________Thanks Christian,
 +1 from me.
 
 I would like at least 2 more 
    +1's from other PMC members (and no -1's) before forwarding on the exception 
    not to the planning council. Again you are voting to allow the exception for 
    Riena to have late participation in Helios. Other PMC members please vote. 
    And please speak up if you do not think 3 +1 PMC votes is appropriate for 
    this case. Thanks.
 
 Tom
 
 
 
 <graycol.gif>Christian Campo ---01/07/2010 04:54:44 AM---Hi Tom, yes that 
    is an oversight and someone (thats me) is working on getting it 
    done.
 
 
 
      
      
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 | <ecblank.gif> Thomas Watson/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
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 | <ecblank.gif> Re: 
          Is Riena planning to join the Helios release train! (yes 
        please)
 |  Hi Tom,yes that is an 
    oversight and someone (thats me) is working on getting it 
    done.I guess the reason that I missed M4 is 
    first that I read somewhere that since Riena was in Galileo that Riena will 
    be automatically in Helios. The oversight was that I must provide a Riena 
    version for M4 build in order to be on the train and not just communicate 
    the interest of the project. Very Sorry for that. At the time Helios M4 was we were busy creating the Riena 1.2.0 
    release (based on Eclipse 3.5) since we are currently on a bi-yearly release 
    circle (Releases in June and December) for Riena. (to get more features into 
    the hand of users)Yes please I want to be on the 
    Helios release train. We have our release plan ready aligned with Helios 
    http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=rt.riena and we are currently in the process to get the build working based 
    on Eclipse 3.6 milestones since we had it always in our mind to be part of 
    Helios.For the justification part (why is it 
    important) we have quite a number of people that I know that are running 
    projects based on Riena and consume it through p2 update sites or the 
    Galileo repository. We have other open source projects like redView (Ekke 
    Gentz who is also Riena committer) which are basing their work on top of 
    Riena milestones. And we could feel the difference once Riena was in the 
    repository (in Galileo) the first time that more people would give it a shot 
    since they were interested in the topic that Riena is covering and updating 
    from a global repository lowers the barrier to try it.Anything more I need to provide or need to do, please let me 
    know.Very sorry that I am creating this extra 
    effort for you.thankschristiancc: riena-dev so that riena 
    developers get informedAm 06.01.2010 um 
    18:22 schrieb Thomas Watson:
 
      At the planning call today it was brought to my 
        attention that Riena is not yet participating in the Helios builds. I 
        assume this is just an oversight and someone from the Riena team is 
        working to get integrated in the Helios build (Christian Campo is that 
        you)? See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Helios/Participating_Projects
 Unfortunately since we missed M4 we will need to have an 
        exception request made to the planning council by the RT PMC. If Riena 
        wants to participate then we need the Riena team to justify why they 
        should be included in the Helios release (How is it important to the 
        Eclipse community, what is the business justification etc.) and why did 
        we miss the M4 deadline for participation. Also how we will ensure that 
        this will not happen in the future. The PMC is requesting a response 
        from the Riena team to give us this justification. I will then ask the 
        PMC to vote on the request for the late exception to allow Riena to 
        participate in the Helios release. If approved then I will send the 
        exception request to the planning council on behalf of the RT 
        PMC.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Tom
 
 
 
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