Re: [platform-vision] Include JVM based languages in the Vision statemen

[Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> If I understood Dani correctly that this would require
additional resources, e.g., if Groovy wants improved support the Groovy
developer would have to get involved as the JDT team does not have the
resources to 
> solve that alone. 

Almost. I said, that if parties are
interest to do this then they have to *do* this. We've made attempts before,
and I'll just repeat them here:
- A first attempt was made in 2005:
http://www.eclipse.org/org/langsymp/,
but when it came to do real work, there was silence.
- There is also something like a fork:
a few years ago we've uploaded JDT Core to e4 (http://git.eclipse.org/c/e4/org.eclipse.jdt.core.git/)
when people raised the voice that they want to work/help opening up JDT
for Java-like languages (see bug
415563) - the number of commits
in that repository is - guess what - zero.

Dani



From:      
 Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:      
 For discussion regarding
the future of the platform <platform-vision@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:      
 26.11.2014 18:19
Subject:    
   [platform-vision]
Include JVM based languages in the Vision        statement?
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   platform-vision-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

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Hi,

one topic we discussed in the last weeks call was that we might want to
include support for alternative JVM based languages into the vision.

So our statement could become (for example):

-----------
In the shorter term, the Eclipse platform and related projects needs additional
focus and resources on meeting the expectations of Java developers in particular.
Quality, performance, out-of-the-box experience, Maven, Gradle and JVM
based languages support, and close affiliation with new Java releases
are all part of the solution. 
----------------

I think that would be a good signal for alternative JVM
languages.

If I understood Dani correctly that this would require
additional resources, e.g., if Groovy wants improved support the Groovy
developer would have to get involved as the JDT team does not have the
resources to solve that alone. 

[Dani please correct me if that does not reflect our statement correctly.]

What do the others on this list think about this suggestion?
+1, 0 or -1 for this suggestion?

Best regards, Lars

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