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Re: [platform-vcm-dev] Watch/edit functionality.

Dave,

Just to clearify something, files are not "cvs edited" when they are
opened, they are "cvs edited" when the user modifies the file. This should
allow users to view the contents of files without flooding the server with
"cvs edit" requests.

Here's a quick summary of the status of watch/edit and how it relates to
our planning:

1) the only functionality that is there is the above mentioned "cvs
editing" on file modification.
2) we do not set the file back to read-only when a commit occurs
3) we have no UI support for performing watch/edit related commands

The fact that we do 1) allows Eclipse to be used to edit files that are
checked out as read-only because watches have been turned on. However, 2)
makes Eclipse a bad customer because edits won't occur if the user edits
the file after the it has been committed. Obviously, the lack of 3) limits
what users can do in Eclipse but are not essential to the work flow.

We are currently in the process of solidifying our plan for 2.1. There is a
small possibility that we will find time to do 2) but, realistically, there
is little chance of us finding this time (point 3 is not being considered
for 2.1). One of the complicating factors is that we do not use watch/edit
so it is difficult to implement the proper support for it. Hence, it is
left to the community to decide if this is an important feature and to
implement it if it is. Of course, we are willing to help such an effort in
any way we can and it is probable that getting community support for
implementing the UI pieces required would inspire us to find the time to
help out with the core work (i.e. point 2 above).

Michael Valenta



                                                                                                                                          
                      "David O'Flanagan (CAPE)"                                                                                           
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Hi,

I am currently evaluating Eclipse and I'm quite eager to adopt it for the
next phase of our project. I've got a couple of questions/comments.

A strong requirement for us is the watch/edit functionality. It was
mentioned in the bug report
http://dev.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=21577 that there is
experimental
support. How far along has this progressed?

The implementation (from the bug report) was to issue a CVS edit when the
user opens a resource. Is there a way to open a file/resource in an editor
without invoking the edit and (maybe) an email to a watcher?

My interpretation of this particular set of CVS commands is that it makes
the user explicitly edit a file (and possibly notify a watcher) so that
edits become more 'heavyweight'. This implementation seems to shield the
user from the 'edit' command.

Another concern would be although I am editing a particular file I may need
to view other files (interfaces, implementations, etc..) and opening these
files could trigger spurious emails to watchers.

Ideally I would like to always open a watched resource as read-only and
then
contextually offer the user the following sets of menus:
1) edit/unedit/list editors
2) watch/unwatch/list watchers

Thanks,
Dave.






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