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Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan


As a partial/temporary technical solution for the visibility issue I would suggest to put into the page links for each milestone pointing to Bugzilla search result showing all the bugs having the selected milestone as the target (this is only relevant, of course, if the PDT team still maintains the bugs with targets).


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Roy Ganor <roy@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Robert, this issue has nothing to do with the visibility of the project.
The issue you mentioned depends on another issue that is handled by the
Eclipse Foundation webmaster that prevents the action of promoting a new
version of PDT to the milestones/interim update site. Once this issue is
fixed we can start rolling out builds.

With regards to the visibility of the project, I would like to know what
you guys are expecting. In general the most important parts in
successful open source communities is the *diversity and the
communication*. Still since early days of this project we enjoy great
user base *but small amount of feedback (good and bad)*, which causes
us, the committers, to lead the project.

I would be VERY happy to hear your feedback (in Bugzilla for example)
and be more active before asking us the committers to be more visible.
Last but not least, it doesn't say we can't do things better but at
least you guys can be helpful with suggesting more accurate things
rather than just vote. BTW, I fixed bug 294107 - 2.2 plan lists all
milestone dates in the same year but am sure you guys want more
information in this page. Usually I put a page after the project is
release for "What's new".

Thanks for your feedback,
-----Original Message-----
From: pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Robert Gruendler
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:05 PM
To: PDT Developers
Subject: Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan

same here.

although i really support the project and appreciate the help one
receives as a developer
on this list, the end-user information could be enhanced.

For example it's a bit confusing that the current development version is
as the first option in the installation wiki, whereas the current 2.2
is broken, which imho is not such a good experience for people trying
out pdt:



On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Nikolai Plath wrote:

> Sorry folks but... i second that
> Am 22.03.2010 08:26, schrieb Sjaak Eenhuis:
>> This is not a project plan. Its a list consisting of alfanumeric
codes with dates associated.
>> M3    11/12/2010    M3 milestone
>> M4    12/18/2010    M4 milestone
>> etc
>> The only thing this plan teaches us is that there are milestones, but
they don't tell in what land they stand.
>> Beside the fact that this table doesn't contain any usable data, the
data that is inside is incorrect. We learn that milestone 3 will be
delivered after the final product has been released. :-)
>> As a pdt user I feel the urge to say something about this, because
the last pdt release went online a long time ago, and the goals are
still a secret.
>> I would like to suggest that you seek out better ways to handle
conflicting interests between Zend Studio and PDT, or if you feel this
isn't the problem, we could try to find out the real cause.
>> I understood that you have finished the rewrite with h2-indexing,
maybe we could add this as an achievement on the plan page? This is a
good message to all the people that suffers from autocompletion inertia.
>> Btw I kind of love pdt. As an avid 'supporter' of this project I
thank you all again for all the efforts made.
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> Subject: RE: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan
>>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:10:35 +0200
>>> From: roy@xxxxxxxx
>>> To: pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> You can find the project plan for PDT here:
>>> We are currently working on Eclipse PDT issues and fix issues marked
>>> P1.
>>> Anything in particular that you are searching for?
>>> Roy
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> On Behalf Of sNop
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:17 AM
>>> To: PDT Developers
>>> Subject: Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 2.2 Project Plan
>>> Hi,
>>> i'm lacking actualizations of the PDT's webpages too. They should be
>>> actualized more often.
>>> So the communication with PDT users is very bad.
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