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Re: [papyrus-ic] Notes from a Papyrus training workshop

Hi,

 

Traceability is certainly something we are interested in as well.

It has been relevant for several of our projects, but we didn’t use Capra yet.

 

Sounds interesting to try it out on a next occasion.

I’ll forward it to some of my colleagues.

 

Johan

 

Van: papyrus-ic-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:papyrus-ic-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Namens Grischa Liebel
Verzonden: vrijdag 2 december 2016 17:59
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Onderwerp: Re: [papyrus-ic] Notes from a Papyrus training workshop

 

Hi,

 

Let me know if this is of further interest to the Papyrus IC community.

Salome, the Capra project lead, is sharing an office with me…

 

Cheers,

Grischa

 

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Hello,

we are currently experimenting with the Capra traceability framework [1] developed in context of the Amalthea4Public/App4MC project for traceability between SysML and profiled UML models, which looks fine so far. Generic EMF objects can also be handled by the framework, so it seems to be an alternative to Michael's approach.

Bye Joerg


[1] https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/capra


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Von:        "Dr. Michael Jastram" <michael@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Datum:        30.11.2016 06:30
Betreff:        Re: [papyrus-ic] Notes from a Papyrus training workshop
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Hello Dimitris,

- One of the attendees asked if/how UML model elements in Papyrus can
be linked to elements from domain-specific (EMF) models (also had to
take this offline)


We built a generic (i.e. Papyrus-neutral) Proof-of-Concept as part of the openETCS project. This could be a starting point for anybody who wants to take this further:

Best,

- Michael   


On 11/30/2016 12:31 AM, Dimitris Kolovos wrote:

Hi everyone,

Today I delivered a 2-hour long Papyrus training workshop to 15-20
engineers from UK industry and I thought I'd summarise some of their
questions/remarks about Papyrus (before I forget), in case any of
these can feed into future discussions/actions:

- They liked the idea of being able to simplify the UI through a
configuration model as demonstrated in [1]. One question was whether
one can switch between the simplified/full UI at runtime (i.e. to
"break-out" of the simplified UI when needed).

- There was a question about who are the main contributors to the
development of Papyrus

- Another question was whether Papyrus supports any import interfaces
from other tools? (Developing such "import" facilities is an
unrewarding task for researchers so we may want to pool resources
here)

- They liked the idea of being able to split models across multiple
projects/files as many of them are struggling with large monolithic
models stored in proprietary tool-specific repositories

- They also liked the idea of being able to use Git to version control
models - especially after I demonstrated EMFCompare. They didn't seem
to be too bothered that there's no built-in support for "live"
collaboration (I was prepared to talk to them about the Papyrus-CDO
integration but I saw little demand for a model repository)

- There was a question about if/how Papyrus can interface to Simulink
(I had to take this one offline as I have no idea)

- One of the attendees asked if/how UML model elements in Papyrus can
be linked to elements from domain-specific (EMF) models (also had to
take this offline)

- There was a question about model execution capabilities to which I
responded by pointing the person that asked towards Moka

- All in all, there was overwhelming support for continuing to
evaluate Papyrus and we'll run a second Q&A workshop after Christmas

Thanks,
Dimitris

[1]
https://wiki.eclipse.org/Papyrus_for_Information_Modeling/Customization_Guide

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