Re: [ospo.zone] OSPO Alliance collaboration infrastructure

[<nicolas1.toussaint@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

Equally enthusiastic on the overall approach ; It's just a short-term pain with huge longer term benefits.

I would have one reserve however for the Gitea instance - appart from a few huge open source communities, it does not look common to me to host code outside of 
GitHub.com or GitLab.com - and doing so puts us a bit appart, and make forking the project less of an instant action.
If we want to go independant from the Eclipe/OW2 instances, I would rather move to GitLab.com


nico


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On 17/01/2023 08:16, Boris Baldassari wrote:
> Hiho Florent, all,
>
> That sounds great, thanks to both of you (Paolo and Florent) for the work!
>
> In my humble opinion the short-lived trouble is absolutely worth the benefits in terms of dissemination (with our own domain name) and ease of use (with SSO). 
> Having it all hosted in Europe and entirely built on OSS solutions is also, obviously, an important feature.
>
> So it's an enthusiastic +1 from me. Thanks!
>
>
>
> -- 
> boris
>
>
>
>
> On 17/01/2023 08:00, Florent Zara wrote:
>> Dear OSPO Alliance Community,
>>
>> With the communication task force and the help of Paolo Vecchi from Omniscloud, we're working on streamlining our collaboration and communication tools as 
>> they are currently spreaded all over the web.FYI, here is a recap of the current situation:
>>
>> 1. For our regular video calls, we're using different instances of Jitsi
>>    - https://jitsi.hivane.net/OW2OSSGoodGovernance <https://jitsi.hivane.net/OW2OSSGoodGovernance for OSS Governance
>>    - https://meet.jit.si/ospo.onramp <https://meet.jit.si/ospo.onramp
>> However,
>>    - some of you have regular troubles to connect easily to Jitsi
>>    - recordings are unreliable as it depends on the machine of one volunteer and it's done locally with the configuration of these instances (at least the 
>> jit.si <http://jit.si/
>> 2. Mailing-lists are spreaded all over the place, requiring to create multiple accounts sometimes
>>    - OW2 for the GGI one
>>    - Eclipse Foundation for the members / general one
>>    - Framalistes.org for the On Ramp people
>> 3. Our videos are hosted on a Peertube instance hosted by a very nice but small French editor that is not a direct supporter of the Alliance and whose 
>> primary job is not hosting
>> 4. Collaborative Pads are provided by Boris B.
>> 5. Our Git repositories are located at
>>    - OW2
>>    - Eclipse
>>
>> Paolo is offering to host us and our services, free of charge as he has some space for us. The idea is to use our own domain name where possible and it makes 
>> sense (i.e. ospo-alliance.org <http://ospo-alliance.org/ The proposition is the following
>>
>> 1. Meetings / conference
>>    - Use the BigBlueButton of OpenCloud.lu bbb.opencloud.lu/ <http://bbb.opencloud.lu/ We're alrealdy usgin it for our regular meetings to solve the above 
>> mentioned issues
>>    - Using our domain is not required.
>> 2. Mailing-List
>>    - Have our own instance of Sympa or Discourse with an email bridge, hosted by OpenCloud
>>    - Use our own domain name : something like lists.open-alliance.org <http://lists.open-alliance.org/ or discourse.ospo-alliance.org 
>> <http://discourse.ospo-alliance.org/
>> 3. Video hosting
>>    - Have our own federated instance of Peertube hosted by OpenCloud
>>    - Use our own domain name with a sub-domain : videos.ospo-alliance.org <http://videos.ospo-alliance.org/
>>   4. Collaborative pads
>>    - Have our own instance of etherpad + mypad plugin https://framagit.org/framasoft/Etherpad/ep_mypads <https://framagit.org/framasoft/Etherpad/ep_mypads
>>    - Use our own domain name with a sub-domain : pads.ospo-alliance.org <http://pads.ospo-alliance.org/
>> 5. Git
>>    - deploy our instance of Gitea (full open source equivalent of GitLab) or its community "soft fork" Forgero
>>    - Use our own domain name with a subdomain : git.ospo-alliance.org <http://git.ospo-alliance.org/
>>    - Move all existing git repositories there
>>    - We will find a space where to host the website and use Boris Jenkins for the CI tools as the one from Gitea is currently in Beta.
>> 6. SSO
>>    - Deploy Univention portal to have a single point of entry and minimize account creation.
>>    - see examples : https://hq.gaia-x.lu/ <https://hq.gaia-x.lu/ & https://hq.syn2cat.lu/ <https://hq.syn2cat.lu/
>>
>> Please note that Paolo is an active supporter of our community and the head of https://omniscloud.eu/ <https://omniscloud.eu/ His company hosts services 
>> based on Open Source solutions. That's why he proposed to set-up and host all this for the OSPO Alliance community.
>> You may meet him during some OnRamp session. We can find an overview of what he has done for Gaia-X: https://hq.gaia-x.lu/ <https://hq.gaia-x.lu/ and the 
>> hackerspace Syn2cat: https://hq.syn2cat.lu/ <https://hq.syn2cat.lu/
>>
>> Please let us know if you have a strong and motivated no-go on this project to streamline our infrastructure. Otherwise, we will start to work with the 
>> communication task force and Paolo to move the services one by one. There might be some friction sometimes but the volume of data is quite limited currently 
>> and the inconvenience should therefore be limited in time and importance.
>>
>> Have a nice day
>> -- 
>> Florent Zara
>> Eclipse Foundation
>> +33 6 24 25 17 08
>>
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