Clark - can you please
address these within reason please? The
key question here is whether we can ship
the iJUG swag to Eclipse Foundation
Germany without iJUG paying more money.
Jan - frankly international
shipping in any significant quantity is
simply a hassle I hope we can avoid the
best we are able or at least limit it to
what is absolutely necessary. I don’t
know that there is a way around paying
taxes, duties, etc if you absolutely
want things shipped to you. I am sure
the Foundation will do what it can, but
as a non-profit it cannot do anything
improper. I suggest simply having Payara
distribute this swag at DevNexus. If you
want a few hoodies for yourself, I or Ed
can save it aside and give it to you in
person. That in my opinion is the most
reasonable path here, pretty much for
you too.
Hi Reza,
first, thank you for supporting this!
Unfortunately I need some additional
information and could not get
answers on the last MP Marketing Meeting:
From where the shipping will be done?
What is the worth of the shipment?
Which logistic companies are involved?
When is planed to ship?
Would be able to receive the shipment free
of any charge (to Germany:
additional transport fees, 19 % tax, unknown
customs percentage)?
As all the involved parties "optimize" the
(in fact: their part only of
the) process, we are not sure we are able to
receive a swag delivery in
a reliable way.
The 2021 Swag delivery failed glorious and a
lot of resources are wasted
already!
To ensure the delivery of the 2022 swag can
be received, I want to pick
it up in person at the Eclipse Foundation
Europe office or storage in
Darmstadt, Germany (
https://www.eclipse.org/org/foundation/contact.php,
Silvia will be the contact person).
The other parts of the EF should be able
select the best option to send
there - I only figured out that the 2022 MP
Swag is not located there
already.
As I expect the swag shipment from somewhere
(outside the EU) will not
be free of charge, delivery to the JavaLand
(starting 21st of March)
directly will not be possible already and a
hub somewhere is necessary
to be in time. Or we have to store it for
JavaLand 2024...
Until the swag creation and delivery process
works end-to-end up to
reliable receiving, I want to pick up the
swag from the EFE site, which
is reliable (of course, this is a local
optimum from iJUG unfortunately).
The current process just do not work for us,
as this is a push (from the
US?), not a pull where you have at least the
chance to track the delivery.
Because of a lot of cheating in past of
especially electronics from
China via Amazon with less worth
declarations, the German customs is
strict now and also the free delivery limit
has been lowered.
On top, from the business perspective the
additional fees and required
resources to handle these international
shipments (for swag!) are
suboptimal.
As a habitant of this planet, I am shocked
that we waste so much
resources for sending enriched cotton around
the globe - the smarter way
would be sending the design digitally and
print locally (where
possible). This also could take into account
other local standards like
sizes.
But again, many thanks to you, Reza, to
forward this - hopefully you
have more success than me in the past to
push this into the right direction.
And I hope I can spend more resources to the
technical side (like fixing
vulnerabilities at the moment) again instead
of doing logistics. ;-)
Best,
Jan
Am 03.03.23 um 18:07 schrieb Reza Rahman:
> Folks,
>
> We are trying to promptly send out the
2022 swag to all members as
> agreed. I need shipping addresses for
the following members for this
> purpose. I also need a phone number
associated with the shipping
> address, especially for shipments
outside of North America. Please
> send it to me and Emerson (copied)
privately. Please indicate if you
> would like to use this address/phone
number going forward.
>
> * Fujitsu
>
> * iJUG
>
> * Oracle
>
> * Primeton
>
> * Tomitribe
>
> I already have the details for Atlanta
JUG, Garden State JUG, IBM,
> Payara and Red Hat - thank you.
>
> I need this by next Friday, 10th March
at the very latest.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reza
>
>
>
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