Hi Amelia.
Your “instructions" to John are incorrect, and also inappropriate.
Minutes are not intended to capture details of the discussion. Rather, minutes are intended to document decisions made in committee and to identify any action items agreed to.
The intent of holding a budget discussion with the Steering Committee such as we did is explicitly to enable members of the Steering Committee to collaboratively discuss the content of the budget, to ask questions, and to freely express their opinions. Such discussion is intended to enable committee members to gain comfort with the topic and to enable them to take an informed decision.
Further, the tone of your message to John is inappropriate. Making factually incorrect assertions such as minutes “must always match” a discussion assumes an authority that you do not have, and making statements such as "EMO required the vote on the spot" is misleading and combative.
While I recognize that you disagree with established Eclipse Foundation policies and processes, they in fact define how MicroProfile is governed. We do require that you adhere to them both on our mailing lists and in meetings.
Regards, Paul
John and all,
Can we please update the agenda?
The agenda must always match: - the core questions asked during the 50mins budget discussion,
- the EMO answers
- also point out that the EMO requested the budget discussion to not be a part of the recording
- the EMO also required the budget vote to be on the spot during the call + state that the budget draft was delivered late on November 24th not enabling proper review for the USA members that were out due to the Thanksgiving holiday?
- why TT voted 0
- etc
Thanks, Meeting minutes pasted below. Meeting minutes PDF attached. Source minutes available here. Minutes updates: 1) Added link to meeting recording
MicroProfile Steering Committee Meeting - November 30th, 2021
Rules DO NOT EDIT AGENDA. This is the responsibility of the meeting moderator with input from the steering committee and community. Agenda items should be discussed in the mailing list/forum or in prior Steering Committee meetings first. Prefer comments occur in mailing lists/forums. Document editing is enabled for community to add themselves to list of community contributors during call
Tweeted pic here, recording here, meeting minutes folder here
Meeting Attendees | Steering Committee (Quorum = 6) | Community (Name, organization) | Atlanta JUG - Summers Pittman, Vincent Mayers Fujitsu - Kenji Kazamura IBM - Kevin Sutter, Emily Jiang iJUG - Jan Westerkamp, Heiko Rupp Jelastic - Ruslan Synytsky, Tetiana Fydorenchyk Garden State JUG - Chandra Guntur, Michael Redlich, Barry Burd Oracle - Ed Bratt, Dmitry Kornilov Payara - Rudy De Busscher Red Hat - John Clingan, Roberto Cortez Tomitribe - David Blevins, Amelia Eiras Committer Member: Edwin Derks
Eclipse Foundation Paul Buck Sharon Corbett Paul White Ivar Grimstad Tanja Obradovic
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Agenda Item | Minutes | Past meeting minutes approval | | Business since last Steering Committee Meeting | Updated MicroProfile Steering Committee Membership Fee Table approved. Replace MicroProfile Compatibility Logo with compatible implementations web page approved. Result Ballot for MicroProfile Fault Tolerance 4.0 approved. Result Ballot for MicroProfile Metrics 4.0 approved. Result Ballot for MicroProfile Config 3.0 approved. Result Ballot for MicroProfile Health 4.0 approved. Result Ballot for Context Propagation 1.3 approved. Ballot results for the July 13th Steering Committee Minutes Approval approved.
| Current Items | Kevin Sutter Retirement
MicroProfile 2022 Budget MicroProfile Budget forecast; input for Eclipse Foundation
Eclipse Foundation Budget link. Paul committed to address the outstanding $2200 infrastructure costs RESOLVED, the Steering Committee approves the MicroProfile 2022 Budget as presented. Ballot passes Atlanta JUG - Fujitsu - IBM - +1 iJUG - +1 Jelastic - Garden State JUG - Oracle - +1 Payara - +1 Red Hat - +1 Tomitribe - 0 Committer Member - +1
MicroProfile 5.0 Status | Next Steering Committee call | | Parking Lot
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