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Re: [mdt-papyrus.dev] Problem with papyrus build execution

The problem is "normally".
And as you know, "normally" theory will always fail !! :)

Near than 0% of our users and customers are using Java 6 or 7.
I agree Java 6 and 7 are better, but this is the hard life of tools creators with several kinds of users.

If we want to be include in Eclipse 3.5 or 3.6, it will be clear that it will be impossible if we aren't compatible with Eclipse platform minimum requirements.

So, +1 to change features and plugins descriptors to be compatible with jdk 1.5.

Cedric Dumoulin a écrit :

This is not waste of time. This are real problems encountered every days by those working on sources. Like the problems of naming in an practical and every day use the different versions, and not on a political way.

JDK 1.6 provide enhancement on jdk1.5. The choice have been made on a political base rather than technical. Until when do Eclipse will stay on java 5 ? Java 7 is already on its way. What is added value of using java5 for build ? Normally, bytecode produce by java6 should/can be compatible with java 5 in execution.

I have no space to install another jdk, and no, I will not downgrade to jdk5. I try to tune my settings to have 1.5 compliance for Papyrus, but I am boring to do it each time (and waste precious time) I switch or create the workspace, or each time the workspace crash because of different reasons.

  Cedric
Raphael FAUDOU wrote:
I'm sorry to interfere but I' m not really happy to see that the global MDT Papyrus team looses time on subjects already addressed. I recall what we have already decided for the MDT Papyrus JRE : support is Java 5.0 (as there is no support for Java 6 from Eclipse platform) . Please respect the decided rules or we will be late : it is one of the fundamental principles of collaborative work...
regards
raphaël

Cedric Dumoulin a écrit :

My favor is 1.6 for build. This should be compatible with 1.5 for execution.

  But this is my point of view, and I know that it is not shared :-).

  Cedric

Emilien PERICO wrote:
Hi all,

I tried to install to papyrus build (made by obeo the 12th) from the update site. All features are correctly installed but I'm not able to start a new papyrus empty model.

I can't do this because of execution environment constraint on the wizard (oep.wizards needs JavaSE 1.6) We already have the problem of Java version in our development and I think we must decide which one use to avoid constant modification by all of us.

Just to remind that the recommended environnement to use Eclipse is Java 5 JRE.
It would be better if all of us use it.

About the Papyrus build, maybe we should change this constraint to be compliant with Eclipse recommendations. If not, we must add Java-1-6 in requirements for the papyrus build, but we have to decide quickly and change this.

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