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Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Download stats was: Building from git?

Bad news,

I've been reading a long thread in cross project concerning download stats...

Quiting David Williams:

"Any
'download.stats' properties from your artifact repository should be copied over to the common one. "

So, since our milestones builds (RCs) didn't have said "download.stats" properties, the downloads done from the indigo repository [1] will never be registered.

Downloads from our Indigo release repository [2] will be registered, but I'm afraid that most of potential downloads will probably come from the main Indigo one... Perhaps, the only advantage will be having some kind of information to know if somebody is using our releases repository...

On the other hand, I have more interesting comments:

- Quoting Martin Oberhuber:
"1. It is better to tie stats to a FEATURE rarther than a bundle. Because bundles come
    in 2 variants (.pack.gz / .jar) so with a bundle you have duplicate work adding the
    stats tracker (and, the app from bug 310132 which auto-generates stats properties
    doesn't support it).
 
1a) Note though that a commercial product which uses a different feature
    structure than Eclipse Open Source (and so just gets your bundle) won't
    be counted when you count feature access. That's likely not relevant."

When automating, 1 should not be relevant. However 1a) comes with an interesting question. Are we really interested in knowing if other components downloads an ocl plugin (for instance Acceleo, or whoever depends on Eclipse OCL) ?:
   - Yes: We should probably track download stats from org.eclipse.ocl plugin (the core plugin, which will always exist if somebody wants Eclipse OCL).
   - No: Just tracking features should suffice.

[1] http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
[2] http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/ocl/updates/releases/3.1.0

Best Regards,
Adolfo.

El 15/06/2011 11:16, Adolfo Sánchez-Barbudo Herrera escribió:
Hello All,

El 14/06/2011 16:44, Adolfo Sánchez-Barbudo Herrera escribió:

Likewise, there should be some stats recording from our release repository. I'll need to check some test results, which will be tracked by the download stats tools tomorrow. The tool to check the stats may be accessed through the portal (thanks Laurent for pointing this tool out):
Here we have the results. The test was installing the OCL End User SDK in a clean Indigo RC4 Eclipse Classic installation:

Results
Query took 0.065 sec (0.007 connect time)
File (click for daily stats) Count
/stats/org.eclipse.ocl.feature 1
/stats/org.eclipse.ocl.all.sdk.feature 1


2 records found. 2

The features which are currently tracked are the following:
- org.eclipse.ocl
- org.eclipse.ocl.all.sdk
- org.eclipse.oxl.examples

The conclusion is: Installing the OCL End User SDK (org.eclipse.ocl.all.sdk feature) also make the included features be registered (in this case, the org.eclipse.ocl one).

So I think that it could be interesting making all the features be tracked instead of simply using the ocl.all.sdk.feature one. The reasons are:
- We could track if any other thirdparty P2 repository tried to download a narrow feature from our release repository (i.e OCL Core SDK, OCL Runtime, etc.. )
- We could have an idea if the feature organization is being useful. If OCL End User SDK has the same hints as OCL Core SDK, means that the latter is not being used/useful for our clients).

Apart from making all our features be registered I want to do a couple of things more:
1. Now I want to install the OCL Examples in a clean installation. Examples doesn't include other features, but depend on/requires some plugins (also ocl plugins). I would like to know what happens in this case. I suppose that the depending plugins will be simply downloaded from the repository, and no hints for the other features will be registered (I think that this is the same situation for downstream projects such as Acceleo). We could also register hints for plugins (perhaps the narrower one: org.eclipse.ocl), although I read somewhere that it's better to register hints from our features (I'll try to look for more information about this).

2. Add some version information of the feature so that different repositories (even nightly/milestones) have different stats for the same feature. I was thinking about trailing the feature version behind the feature name. However, this would make harder to track the content registered for the repository in the portal web UI. So instead of having:
/stats/org.eclipse.ocl.feature-3.1.0.vAAAABBCC-ddee
/stats/org.eclipse.ocl.feature-3.1.0.vFFFFFGGHH-iijj
...
/stats/org.eclipse.ocl.all.sdk.feature-3.1.0.vAAAABBCC-ddee
/stats/org.eclipse.ocl.all.sdk.feature-3.1.0.vFFFFFGGHH-iijj

I was think about trailing the version in the beginning:

/stats/3.1.0.vAAAABBCC-ddee-org.eclipse.ocl.feature.
/stats/3.1.0vAAAABBCC-ddeej-org.eclipse.ocl.all.sdk.feature.
...
/stats/3.1.0.vFFFFFGGHH-iijj-org.eclipse.ocl.feature.
/stats/3.1.0.vFFFFFGGHH-iijj-org.eclipse.ocl.all.sdk.feature.

Another interesting alternative: Including our project name and build information:

/stats/mdt-ocl-3.1.0.RAAAABBCCDDEE-org.eclipse.ocl.feature.
/stats/mdt-ocl-3.1.0.RAAAABBCCDDEE-org.eclipse.ocl.all.sdk.feature.
...
/stats/mdt-ocl-3.1.0.NFFFFFGGHHIIJJ-org.eclipse.ocl.feature.
/stats/mdt-ocl-3.1.0.NFFFFFGGHHIIJJ-org.eclipse.ocl.all.sdk.feature.

Thoughts ?

Best Regards,
Adolfo.
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38001 SANTA CRUZ DE TENERIFE
Tel.: +34 922 240231

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