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RE: [mdt-ocl.dev] RE: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL andEMF"QTV"Components?

Title: Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?

So, based on the discussion during the Modeling PMC call, we will appoint (only) the individuals from the proposed list who have made prior contributions to the OCL component. Based on the IP log at http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=modeling.mdt, this would include the following individuals:

 

Adolfo Sánchez-Barbudo Herrera (opencanarias.com)

Laurent Goubet (obeo.fr)

Anthony Hunter (ca.ibm.com)

Edward Willink (willink.me.uk)

Aleksandr Igdalov (borland.com)

 

Is anyone (who has been a contributor) missing from this list? This new team will have to decide amongst themselves who should be the new component lead… Once that has been done (and we’ve confirmed that the list is complete), I’ll forward the names to the EMO on behalf of the PMC.

 

Cheers,

 

Kenn Hussey
Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions

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From: mdt-ocl.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mdt-ocl.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kenn Hussey
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:30 AM
To: PMC members mailing list
Cc: MDT OCL mailing list; Ed Merks
Subject: [mdt-ocl.dev] RE: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL andEMF"QTV"Components?

 

Team,

 

As lead of the MDT project, of which OCL is a component, I would like to stress Rich’s point that this is not a “land grab”. As far as I understand things, if we’re not going to hold a Termination Review, it’s up to the PMC (and me as this component’s representative to the PMC) to appoint a new set of committers. This set must be based on the principles of the Eclipse Development Process (e.g. history of contributions), and the new team must agree with the current scope of the OCL component. Should we wish to deviate from either of these, I would suggest a Termination Review as a more appropriate course of action.

 

BTW, we will be discussing this at today’s Modeling PMC meeting, details of which can be found at http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_PMC_Meeting,_2009-03-17.

 

Cheers,

 

Kenn Hussey
Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions

[Embarcadero Technologies Logo]

Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. | www.embarcadero.com 
82 Peter Street, Second Floor | TorontoON  M5V 2G5
Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Office: 416-593-1585 x9296 Mobile: 613-301-9105

 

From: modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Gronback
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:11 AM
To: PMC members mailing list
Cc: Ed Merks
Subject: Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL and EMF"QTV"Components?

 

Yes, of course.  This underscores my point of assigning new committers based on contribution; after all, it’s not a land grab ;)

With that, I’d be interested to know the level of effort each expects they will be able to apply toward maintaining the component.  I think we all agree Christian has set a pretty high bar on what’s expected.

Thanks,
Rich


On 3/17/09 9:04 AM, "Adolfo Sánchez-Barbudo Herrera" <adolfosbh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rich,

I think you could have a quick idea if you have a look to the IP Log for the MDT project:

http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=modeling.mdt

Cheers,
Adolfo.
Richard Gronback escribió:


I suggest that each proposed committer present a list of contributions they
have made to MDT OCL, in order for each to be evaluated on the meritocratic
basis upon which Eclipse projects operate.

Thanks,
Rich


On 3/16/09 11:04 AM, "Freddy Allilaire" <freddy.allilaire@xxxxxxx> <mailto:freddy.allilaire@xxxxxxx>  wrote:

  
 


Hi Ed,

Here is the proposed set of committers for MDT/OCL subproject

lead : Freddy Allilaire
committers :
Anthony Hunter
Bernd Kolb
another SAP guy ;-)
Laurent Goubet

Bernd : we'll soon need the "SAP guy" name ;-)

Regards,
Freddy

Ed Merks a écrit :
    
 


Guys,

I've asked the EMO about how to handle this and they are fine if we
simply identify for each component a new set of committers. So I'll
expect to see a proposed set of committers, including a lead, for each
component *by the end of next week*, and then I'll go forward with
that list.

Cheers,
Ed


Anthony Hunter wrote:
      
 


So Christian, are you willing to baby sit the components on your own
time until a termination review?

Or would you rather vote in a some committers on each of these
components to take over next week, with the provision that things
could change based on the to be scheduled termination review?

Cheers...
Anthony
--
Anthony Hunter mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
IBM Rational Software: Aurora / GEF / GMF / Modeling Tools
Phone: 613-270-4613


Inactive hide details for "Christian W. Damus" ---03/12/2009 10:16:29
AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for your prompt input. That has be"Christian W.
Damus" ---03/12/2009 10:16:29 AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for your prompt
input. That has been my understanding, too.


From:  
"Christian W. Damus" <give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx>

To:  
PMC members mailing list <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Date:  
03/12/2009 10:16 AM

Subject:  
[modeling-pmc] Re: [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Transition Plan for
MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?

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Hi, Kenn,

Thanks for your prompt input. That has been my understanding, too.

Perhaps the name of this review mechanism is problematic: it should
be called the
"Please-help-Eclipse-to-decide-what-to-do-with-this-project Review." :-)

I shall work up some slides, then, for termination reviews of these
components and send them out for feed-back before asking the EMO to
schedule the reviews. These slides will make it clear that there is,
in my opinion, sufficient interest to re-boot these components with
new committers under new leadership and that this should be the
recommended course of action. As I understand it, the interested
parties will have an opportunity to collaborate on the new road-map,
committer team, and leadership for these components.

Thanks!

Christian


On 12-Mar-09, at 8:50 AM, Kenn Hussey wrote:

            Christian,

            The process for ³vaulting of individuals into committer
            positions² IS the Termination Review, AFAIK. To be clear,
            a Termination Review does not automatically mean the
            project/component will be terminated/archived; it gives
            the community the chance to step up and potentially do a
            reboot. I don¹t think we can/should replace all of the
            committers (only one in this case) with new ones via the
            usual voting process unless we can justify the new
            committers based on meritocracyŠ

            Cheers,

            *Kenn Hussey
            Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions*
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            <http://www.embarcadero.com/>*
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            *From:* _emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
            <mailto:emf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
            [_mailto:emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_] *On Behalf Of
            *Christian W.Damus*
            Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:40 AM*
            To:* PMC members mailing list*
            Cc:* MDT OCL mailing list; Eclipse Modelling Framework*
            Subject:* [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Transition Plan for
            MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?

            Hi,

            Thanks to Anthony, Cédric, and Bernd for expressing
            willingness to commit to the continued vitality of these
            components! It's great to see such support.

            Just to be clear, again: as I understand it, Termination
            Review is the only process by which a project's committer
            team might be changed /en masse/ on events such as this,
            and the preferred outcome for all stakeholders is always
            that the project continue under new leadership with a new
            committer team.

            If there is another mechanism available, or if the
            Modeling PMC can direct a transition, please let me know!
            I prefer a smooth transition of these components into
            willing and capable hands. For example, if the PMC can
            approve the vaulting of individuals into committer
            positions that they would not, under normal
            circumstances, yet have earned, then that works for me.

            Kenn? Ed? What is your recommendation as PMC reps for the
            projects involved?

            Thanks,

            Christian


            On 11-Mar-09, at 5:30 PM, Christian W. Damus wrote:


            Hello, my PMC,

            As most of you already know, I have been unemployed for
            some time now. That interval is now coming to an end, to
            my great relief.

            However, in my new employment, the job description does
            not include time to spend on development of the Eclipse
            Modeling components on which I am currently a committer.
            Nor would I expect it to, as the work is quite removed
            from the MDD sphere.

            I would not be able to contribute as a committer on these
            components to the standard expected of the Eclipse
            community, and certainly not my own standard, on my own
            personal time. Therefore, I shall need to relinquish my
            committer rights on the MDT OCL component and the EMF
            Query, Transaction, and Validation components as of next
            week.

            The problem is, of course, that I am the only committer
            on these components. As I understand the Eclipse process,
            a Project that finds itself without any committers
            proceeds to Termination Review in the hope that the
            project can be re-staffed. Is the same true of
            Components? Can we assume that the rules of the new
            process (in which these components that are still
            Components would be Projects) should apply?

            Please advise.

            Thanks,

            Christian
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