Re: [m2e-users] moving m2e to java7 past kepler sr0

[Thomas Hallgren <thomas@xxxxxxx>]

On 2013-05-31 08:34, Tonny Madsen wrote:

> It's just a statement that new stuff will require other new stuff.

For me the operational word is "require" :-)

And slightly easier development is *not* a hard requirement in my book. Most of the problems the new resource construct can avoid can also be avoided using findbug, checkstyle, etc...

Yes, of course. But you can't deny that the new constructs will increase code quality nevertheless. Not everyone is using (or even would like to use) those tools. And then there's all new functionality. Support for symlinks to name one. Far better integration with dynamic languages is another.

At the end, the question is, who is paying? Do we reward the companies that allow their software developers to only upgrade parts of their development environment at the expense of everyone else? Or do we simply state that if you want to be on the "using the latest and greatest" train, then that will require you to use a more recent JVM then the one who has already reached its EOL! To me, that choice is simple. If there's a problem with "installing", simply do as Renat suggests. Problem solved.

- thomas

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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Thomas Hallgren <thomas@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On 2013-05-30 22:19, Tonny Madsen wrote:

No so... Remember that Eclipse can be installed everywhere - Java cannot.

That is a good point. However, I've never been able to understand why inertia in some organizations product department should be allowed to hold back technology progress for the developers. If an organization does allow upgrades of Eclipse (and hence upgrades of their development environments), then I find it very likely that they will allow the developers to use Java 7 as well. The fact that the developed product then runs on a Java 6 JVM is not relevant. m2e is all about development. The resulting artifact may well run on much older platforms.

So, It's not like anything is taken away. It's just a statement that new stuff will require other new stuff. If you don't like new stuff, then just stay with the old! But don't expect all others to do so just because.

- thomas

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