| Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Lead approval for Compatibility request? |
Sure, I buy that. But, at least provide the link. If you need credentials or license or whatever to do the actual download, then that's okay. That's what we do with our WebSphere Liberty downloads. But, at least provide a long-lived url that could be used as a reference. That's my point.
It looks like Fujitsu does a similar thing. And, even Oracle does something similar with requiring a license checkbox.
Got it. Thanks.
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From: Scott Stark <starksm64@xxxxxxxxx>
To: jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/24/2021 13:59
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Lead approval for Compatibility request?
Sent by: "jakartaee-platform-dev" <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
All that we can require is that the results be available in a public accessible form. We cannot require access to the server binary nor can we require access to the platform used to run the TCK and server. Both could be proprietary derivatives of some OS and Java SE. All we can verify is that the correct TCK was passed and that the results look consistent with the expected TCK results.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 11:52 AM Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Kevin,
I definitely see your point. But I have a question. The EFSP specifically supports the enablement of independent implementations made available under proprietary license terms. Under such licensing approaches sometimes the binaries are available only to paying customers. What would be a reasonable mechanism to support these scenarios given our self-certification approach?
To be clear, I am not certain that this is what is happening in this particular case. But I think it is at least close.
On 2021-02-24 2:33 p.m., Kevin Sutter wrote:
Ed,
I was seeing all of the back-and-forth in this Issue and I thought things were still in state of flux... Based on this note, I just went out to the CCR and found several of the items that you had already pointed out. But, I also found a couple of new ones.
I also take exception with the idea that a download link or page is not required. Every CCR that I have been reviewing, I have been treating this as a requirement. I know it says "(if applicable)", but I've been holding them to higher standard. How else can these CCRs stand the test of time? We need CIs to be long-lived and available on an external, public web site. Otherwise, as @hantsy pointed out, how else do we know that this request is real? Granted, none of us will attempt to actually run the tests. But, I think we need to require a real download executable.
I've posted my comments to the Issue. I am not ready to approve it yet.
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Kevin Sutter
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From: Ed Bratt <ed.bratt@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/24/2021 11:25
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [jakartaee-platform-dev] Lead approval for Compatibility request?
Sent by: "jakartaee-platform-dev" <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi,
Calling your attention to the Platform Certification request, currently pending for Jakarta EE 8, Inforsuite AS.
Compatibility certification request for InforSuite Application Server for Full Platform #306
It's been reviewed by Ivar and myself. They'd like approval as quickly as possible -- that would be 14 days from when it was filed (Feb. 28th), unless a lead approves. I've identified a minor correction to the TCK results summary, but otherwise, it looks good to me.
Does anyone with the Lead role want to approve this now (or maybe tomorrow)?
-- Ed_______________________________________________
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