Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Tracking progress of Jakarta EE 9

["Kevin Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, Steve.  Absolutely
right about the limitations of the project boards, but I can live with
that.  It's still better than a spreadsheet...  ;-)  I'll
create the bugzilla to get the other repo created.  If it turns out
not to be useful, we can retire it after this release.  

I'm still open
to other suggestions, if there are other opinions...  Thanks!

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From:
       "Steve
Millidge (Payara)" <steve.millidge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
       jakartaee-platform
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Date:
       01/29/2020
03:42
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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Tracking progress of Jakarta EE 9
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I think what you are hitting is the lack of a light-weight project management tool and hitting the limitation of GitHub projects.

 

I don’t see the problem of creating issues on the actual responsible project for substantive milestones i.e. Create release plan, Make RC available etc. however as we now have an issue with checkboxes it would probably cause confusion if we turned each bullet into its own issue in the project repo.

 

Therefore, short of using a different tool, a new repo maybe the way to go just to hang issues off which we have total control over.

 

Steve

From:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Kevin Sutter
Sent: 28 January 2020 22:38
To: jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Tracking progress of Jakarta EE 9

 

This is more of a release management question (vs a technical question), so if you are not interested in planning, you can skip this message...

The github project boardwe have in place is working nice, but I'm hitting a couple of gotchas...

• The notecards I am using in the RC column are not very usable or flexible.  I can't add tags, labels, relationships, assignments, etc.
• For example, if Ifilter on "wave:1", I can see all of the Issues assigned to Wave:1, except I can't see whether we have any RCs available for Wave:1 yet.  Unless I open each individual Issue and review it's checklist.
• I was thinking of converting these Notecards in the RC column to Issues.  I could add the necessary tags/labels to these Issues and the project board would be more useful.  But, these Issues would only be used for tracking purposes, so it seems silly to clutter up "real code" repositories.
• So, I was thinking of creating a new repo called jakartaee-release, or jakartaee-mgmt, or jakartaee-project (I'm not picky).  I used the jakartaee- prefix since the Platform project was responsible for developing the Release Plan and we already own the jakartaee-platform, jakartaee-api, and jakartaee-schemas repos.  I just didn't want to clutter up the jakartaee-platform repo with these release mgmt Issues.  I also want to use a repo that we have write access to so that it's easier to maintain.
•  
• You'll notice that the PR column for the Specifications and Apidocs can already utilize these tags/labels since we have write access to that repo.  So, a query for "wave:0"shows all of the Issues and the PRs associated with "wave:0".
•  

Maybe
I'm over-complicating things here...  I'm open to other suggestions.
 Thanks!

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STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx    Twitter:  @kwsutter
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