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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Final Vote tally
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gnah, remove the 'not'.
> Am 12.12.2019 um 16:19 schrieb Mark Struberg <struberg@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Oh that's great news! Thanks for sharing!
> I was really worried about that since a multi-year long partly migration would not be a problem for user adoption.
>
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>> Am 12.12.2019 um 16:15 schrieb Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> Mark,
>> Votes 2 and 3 for Activation, JAXB, JAX-WS, Soap, and WS Metadata were inconclusive. There was no clear majority vote. Thus, on the Platform call on Tuesday, a compromise alternative was presented and discussed. Here's what we agreed to...
>>
>>>> • Move Activation, JAXB, JAX-WS, SOAP, and WS Metadata to jakarta namespace
>>>> • Activation would be a Required spec for the Platform due to multiple dependencies
>>>> • JAXB, JAX-WS, SOAP, and WS Metadata would become Optional specs for the Platform
>>
>> This decision moves all of these APIs to the jakarta namespace, with Activation being Required and the rest being Optional. This supports the "big bang" approach with moving everything to the jakarta namespace (other than what was decided to be pruned based on the other votes).
>>
>> -- Kevin
>>
>> jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 12/12/2019 09:04:13:
>>
>>> From: Mark Struberg <struberg@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-
>>> dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: 12/12/2019 09:04
>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Final Vote tally
>>> Sent by: jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Vote 2 -1. That was about leaving Activation and bounded
>>> technologies at javax, isn't?
>>> Or did that also get changed in the 2nd round of the VOTE?
>>> Especially JAX-WS would be troublesome.
>>>
>>> Or did I get confused with all the different rounds of discussions?
>>>
>>>
>>> LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 12.12.2019 um 15:54 schrieb Kevin Sutter <kwsutter@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Not sure how you came to that conclusion, Mark. Everything
>>> is moving to the Jakarta namespace...
>>>>
>>>> -- Kevin
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 08:41 Mark Struberg <struberg@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> That essentially means that 'big-bang' is not more. Instead we
>>> will see a slow migration from various packages from javax to
>>> jakarta. Which will be confusing as crazy for end users.
>>>>
>>>> Sad panda over here...
>>>>
>>>> LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>>
>>>>> Am 12.12.2019 um 14:14 schrieb Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the great response and discussion for the NEW VOTES
>>> that were posted last week! We continued the discussion at our
>>> Platform call this week. The results of the Vote and the Discussion
>>> will be folded into the Release Plan which we hope to have ready by EOD today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Votes 1, 4, 5 had a clear majority vote and, thus, they will be
>>> part of the Release Plan.
>>>>>
>>>>> The tallies for Votes 2 and 3 were split with no clear majority.
>>> The following compromise was presented and voted on the Platform
>>> Call on Tuesday to resolve this deadlock. (We had sufficient
>>> representation from the Committers on the call to perform this
>>> unanimous vote.)
>>>>> • Move Activation, JAXB, JAX-WS, SOAP, and WS Metadata to
>>> jakartanamespace
>>>>> • Activation would be a Required spec for the Platform due
>>> to multiple dependencies
>>>>> • JAXB, JAX-WS, SOAP, and WS Metadata would become Optional
>>> specs for the Platform
>>>>> DECISION: Go with this compromise and communicate via the Release Plan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the "final" numbers... Again, thanks for your
>>> participation! The input from everybody really helped us come to
>>> the proper conclusion and direction for Jakarta EE 9.
>>>>>
>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>> VOTE 1 to Prune Stable APIs
>>>>> +1 (binding) - 7
>>>>> +1 (non-binding) - 10
>>>>>
>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>> VOTE 2 to Leave Activation in javax namespace (required for platform)
>>>>> +1 (binding) - 3
>>>>> +1 (non-binding) - 1
>>>>>
>>>>> 0 (binding) - 2
>>>>>
>>>>> -1 (binding) - 2
>>>>> -1 (non-binding) - 7
>>>>>
>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>> VOTE 3 to Leave JAXB, JAX-WS, SOAP, and WS Metadata in javax
>>> namespace (all as optional for platform)
>>>>> +1 (binding) - 3
>>>>> +1 (non-binding) -1
>>>>>
>>>>> 0 (binding) - 1
>>>>>
>>>>> -1 (binding - 2 (implied by -1 in VOTE 2)
>>>>> -1 (non-binding) - 6
>>>>>
>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>> VOTE 4 to Make Enterprise Web Services and EJB 2.x API Group as Optional
>>>>> +1 (binding) - 8
>>>>> +1 (non-binding) - 9
>>>>>
>>>>> -1 (non-binding) - 1
>>>>>
>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>> VOTE 5 to Prune EJB Interop (Ch 10 of EJB 3.2 Spec)
>>>>> +1 (binding) - 7
>>>>> +1 (non-binding) - 9
>>>>>
>>>>> 0 (binding) - 1
>>>>>
>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Kevin Sutter
>>>>> STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
>>>>> e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @kwsutter
>>>>> phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
>>>>> LinkedIn: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?
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