Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] New, modified votes coming...

["Kevin Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for the great
response and discussion for the NEW VOTES that were posted last week.  Several
of the votes are pretty much unanimous, but we still need some binding
votes from the rest of the Platform Committers (13 total) to make them
official (simple majority).  Thanks!

VOTE 2 and VOTE
3 related to the dropped APIs from Java SE 11 also need some help.  Although
the discussion is leaning one way, the binding votes are in a dead heat.
 Please talk with your teams and your customers so that we can get
more binding votes in place.  We would like to complete this vote
and the discussion at tomorrow's Platform call in preparation for our Jakarta
EE 9 Release Plan.  Thank you!  Here are the current tallies...

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VOTE 1 to Prune
Stable APIs
+1 (binding) -
6 
+1 (non-binding)
- 8

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VOTE 2 to Leave
Activation in javax namespace (required for platform)
+1 (binding) -
2
+1 (non-binding)
- 1

0 (binding) -
2

-1 (binding) -
2
-1 (non-binding)
- 4

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VOTE 3 to Leave
JAXB, JAX-WS, SOAP, and WS Metadata in javax namespace (all as optional
for platform)
+1 (binding) -
2
+1 (non-binding)
-1

0 (binding) -
1

-1 (binding -
2 (implied by -1 in VOTE 2)
-1 (non-binding)
- 5

=====

VOTE 4 to Make
Enterprise Web Services and EJB 2.x API Group as Optional
+1 (binding) -
5
+1 (non-binding)
- 5

-1 (non-binding)
- 1

=====

VOTE 5 to Prune
EJB Interop (Ch 10 of EJB 3.2 Spec)
+1 (binding) -
4
+1 (non-binding)
- 5

=====


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Kevin Sutter 
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx     Twitter:  @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter



From:
       "Kevin
Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:
       "jakartaee-platform
developer discussions" <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
       12/04/2019
15:07
Subject:
       [EXTERNAL]
[jakartaee-platform-dev] New, modified votes coming...
Sent
by:        jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

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Hi,
Yesterday's Platform call was eye-opening in the sense of all of the new
ideas and comments that came flooding out.  There were many opinions
expressed and that is all appreciated!  But, we still need to come
to a conclusion soon and propose a solution for Jakarta EE 9.

To that end, Steve and I met and discussed all of the pruning and adding
of the various Specifications and Features.  We read through all of
the emails (again) and discussed the various Platform calls we've had on
this topic.  We know we can't please everyone, but we think we have
come up with three new proposals that will be acceptable to most of us.
 We want to verify our thinking by proposing these three new votes
via separate emails.  We are looking for the same type of +1/0/-1
voting.  If you vote a 0 or -1, please explain your reasons in the
reply.

Just to give you a flavor of the votes (without the detail), the votes
will be centered on Pruning, Optional (javax namespace), Optional (jakarta
namespace).  The actual voting notes will have the detail.

We will start these votes today and run them through next Tuesday, Dec
10.  That gives almost a full week.  Since we have all been discussing
these items for weeks now, I think providing a vote by next Tuesday is
acceptable.

And, one final Thank You!  The input for the Sizing Exercise
has been encouraging...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EN5UEzxFV1Buk7yqdQAweaynWJ3UNn2BjN7blXn9vh4/edit#gid=0

I'm seeing many updates through out the various components.  Much
appreciated!  But, we're still looking for more input...  We
need to get a reading on a prospective End Date for Jakarta EE 9 -- month
or quarter in 2020.  Eventually (by Dec 13), we will need to propose
a Release Plan with a Date and we'll use the data received.  So, please
consider reviewing the spreadsheet and providing any data that you can.
 Thanks!

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Kevin Sutter 
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx     Twitter:  @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter_______________________________________________
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