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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] VOTE: Specifications to Prune in Jakarta EE 9
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Since we're going
with the Big Bang approach, I would consider any APIs using the javax namespace
as *not* part of Jakarta EE 9. If there's a good chance that a javax
API will evolve, then it should move to the jakarta namespace and be part
of Jakarta EE 9.There may be some
dependencies from Jakarta EE 9 on javax APIs (ie. JDBC), but those should
be highlighted and documented.
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Kevin Sutter
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] VOTE: Specifications to Prune
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Kevin,
This
is true if we move all API from javax to jakarta name space.
But
is it possible that some of APIs will use javax namespace in Jakarta EE
9 ?
-Kenji
Kazumura
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in Jakarta EE 9
In
this case, we actually using "prune" to mean "remove".
We want to start fresh and remove APIs that are not needed as we
move forward with Jakarta EE. The javax versions of these APIs will
continue to live to support older implementations. But, we're trying
to limit the old baggage that we move forward to Jakarta. As an example,
why go through the effort of the javax->jakarta rename for the J2EE
Management API? This would require updates to the Specs, APIs, TCKs,
and Compatible Implementations. That's a lot of work for no benefit.
That's why we are asking to "prune" or "remove"
certain older technologies.
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Kevin Sutter
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
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To: jakartaee-platform
developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/18/2019
21:33
Subject: [EXTERNAL]
Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] VOTE: Specifications to Prune in
Jakarta EE 9
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Steve,
I
would like make sure what we vote for.
We
usually use the word “prune” as “to make something optional”
rather than “to remove” in Java EE specifications.
Is
this vote for whether we remove specifications or not ?
-Kenji
Kazumura
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Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:56 AM
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Subject: [jakartaee-platform-dev] VOTE: Specifications to Prune in
Jakarta EE 9
See
previous email for context.
All
committers please vote on this proposal for specifications to be pruned
from the Jakarta EE 9 platform specifications.
The
following specifications will be *removed* from Jakarta EE 9 Full profile
specification.
-
Jakarta XML Registries JSR 93
-
Jakarta XML RPC JSR 101
-
Jakarta Deployment JSR 88
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Jakarta Management JSR 77 note this was not optional or deprecated in Java
EE 8
-
Jakarta Enterprise Bean entity beans – Note this is old style CMP and
BMP entity beans NOT JPA Entities
-
Jakarta Enterprise Bean interoperability
-
Jakarta Enterprise Bean 2.x and 1.x client view
-
Jakarta Enterprise Web Services JSR 109
Please
vote by reply with +1, 0, -1 in accordance with the Eclipse Development
Process.
Thanks
Steve_______________________________________________
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