| [jakarta.ee-wg] Minutes of the Sept 15, 2020 Jakarta EE Steering Committee meeting |
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Minutes of the Sept 15, 2020 Jakarta Steering Committee Meeting are provided below.
Jakarta EE Steering Committee minutes are regularly published at the following location:
https://jakarta.ee/meeting_minutes/#steering_committee
These minutes will be published at the above link. Minutes of the Marketing and Specification Committees are available at this location as well.
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Minutes of the September 15, 2020 Jakarta EE Steering Committee Meeting
Please refer to your meeting invitation for the zoom password.
Attendees:
Fujitsu: Kenji Kazumura
IBM: Dan Bandera, Kevin Sutter, Neil Patterson, Ian Robinson
Oracle: Will Lyons, Ed Bratt, Dmitry Kornilov
Payara: Steve Millidge
Red Hat: John Clingan, Mark Little, Scott Stark
Tomitribe: David Blevins, Cesar Hernandez
Enterprise Member representative: Not present
Participant member representative: Martijn Verburg
Committer member representative: Arjan Tjims
(Quorum is 5 -- simple-majority or one-half of the members (if even number) must be present)
Eclipse: Tanja Obradovic, Shabnam Mayel, Ivar Grimstad, Paul White, Paul Buck
Review of Minutes from Prior Meetings
Minutes of the Sept 1 meeting were approved.
Will distribute to Working Group per decision from last meeting
Minutes of the September 8 meeting will be reviewed next time.
Jakarta EE 9 Spec Project Status
Spec status summary
Spec project board (new column for links to TCK and GF board)
TCK issues
Schedule
Specs open for ballot
Sept 8 status
Current spec status:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YTUpfdLZZrk2_UGwoX2w0seOCueRO3sQJIjWxpDAa7g/edit#gid=0
3 specs are done
7 specs are in ballot
Interceptors depends on Platform
8 are close
Did get a PR for transactions - so that one is moving forward
Still have 5 without any PRs
Look to have PRs for all specs next week
Agreed to schedule Livestream on Dec 8
We will not change this date
Marketing and press activity would target this date
Agreed to set a GA target for Nov 20
All Specs in ballot NLT Nov 6
Earlier completion is acceptable
Discussed whether we should have another milestone release for the GlassFish
Will review this when we have TCK results fully passing
Sept 15 status
Current spec status
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YTUpfdLZZrk2_UGwoX2w0seOCueRO3sQJIjWxpDAa7g/edit#gid=0
7 specs are done (up from 3 last week)
5 specs are in ballot (2 moved into ballot last week)
8 specs are close (2 moved into “close” state last week)
15 are not close yet
3 Specs do not have PRs yet - mentors are pursuing
Eclipse GlassFish 6.0 Status - Steve Millidge/Eliot Martin
Project board for GlassFish https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/projects/1
TCK issues: https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aee9-tck
Sept 8 Update
Down to 13 (new) failures (all 64 from last week fixed) for Full Platform
None of these are significant
More failures on Web Profile
Confident on having this working by mid-September
Sept 15 Update
Failures went up, though we know why (JPA, EJB, Mojarra)
Working through the issues
Jakarta EE Advocate feedback on JetBrains webinar - Ivar Grimstad (will come back to this next week)
Background
We have feedback from the Jakarta EE Ambassadors on content
We have community voices doc David collected in the past
Ivar is asking for higher level “release” direction vs. “technical” direction on individual specs:
Release cadence
LTS model
Number of profiles
Ability for component specs to release independently
There is a history in this community of leaders establishing release direction - need an overall narrative
Dan suggested we could indicate items/themes we would consider for future releases
We need to align this cadence with what could be absorbed by vendors and their customers
It was noted that for past EE 6 releases we conducted surveys
Such surveys could include requests for feedback on release cadence, etc
Ivar agreed to guide us through a structured discussions on this topic over the next several weeks - Ivar will come back next week
Note: On Platform call we are looking for volunteers
Tooling
David provided a first draft of the plan ready for discussion
Datasheet complete:
Ownership for tooling vendors being tracked below:
Request help identifying contacts
Marketing Committee Update and Jakarta EE Update Calls
JakartaOne Livestream 2020 (virtual)
Will be scheduled December 8th
CFP moved to Oct 1
Jakarta EE 9 Full Release Marketing Plan Sheet
Planning spreadsheet - available here
Technical WP plans - available here
Compatible Products Page (update-requested by the Specification Committee (EF))
Reviewed the latest mockup - Christie Witt (Eclipse Foundation)
Logo would be linked to either product page or download page
Versions link would be to TCK results
New button - Compatibility Requests - link to Github issues
Based on discussions, Christie to mock up a combined approach for a phase 2 look and feel - mid-October.
Why Jakarta EE?
Marketing committee - will build a “Why Jakarta EE” messaging/topic page - positioning value proposition in a consumable manner
Jakarta EE Roadmap would also be covered as an offshoot of this
Need to have a visually appealing view into directions
Design from marketing committee while content comes through other committees
Jakarta EE Update Calls
October call will be held during J4K.io (in virtual booth)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U81TZ2F_nhg6WxoE1VnpUUEQ09r8SXWpaN3hf3wiTWQ/edit
2020 JakartaOne Livestream Events Doc
Events
Livestream
Spanish - in planning
China - in planning
Turkey - under consideration
See vendor signup: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jkvN2BxqJHvnknpMbEZj_zmCaoxMlRjzhXHO7Gn-LLE/edit#gid=0
J4K conference - Oct 13-14
Virtual Community Booth for members to sign up
Will have 30 mins public Steering Committee meeting as part of the conference on Oct 13 (same time slot)
Will have the October Update Call on October 14th from virtual booth
Translation Help
See mail from Tanja - Translating jakarta.ee into Chinese
Jakarta EE 2020 Operational Plan
Review Q3 actual vs. plan: