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[] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - August 24th, 2022

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - August 24th, 2022

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Tom Watson - IBM - Emily Jiang

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage - Payara - Petr Aubrecht

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member - Martijn Verburg

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton - Enterprise Member

Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member


Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic, Paul Buck (chair)

Guests: Scott Stark, Scott Marlow

Past business / action items:

  • Approval is requested for the meeting minutes from the August 10th, 2022 meeting as drafted - Approved.


The Spec Committee will host a retrospective in their call scheduled for 09/07

  • Progress Review items discussed and proposed for the check list [Input for Ed - action item from July 27th call]

    • If only Creation Review held, then provide update on the Plan

    • If specification is dormant then confirm that no further enhancements known at this time (Service Release remains an option)

Plan Review check-list, Draft PR was presented by Ed and discussed by the committee

Note that the Plan Review template is here.

Committee is requested to review the check-list and add comments to the PR, also check that the checklist and template are in sync.

Checkpoint in next call and merge PR if ready.

Note: Progress Review checklist to be covered separately.

  • [EJ] revisit Jakarta TCK process regarding whether to allow tests to be updated in a service release

TCK process does not allow updates to tests within a service release, for Concurrency an exception had to be granted, are there some changes that can be permitted? 

Jakarta EE TCK Process 1.2 says …

“How Tests May be Added to a TCK

The only time tests may be added to a TCK are in a major or minor release. A service release which updates the exclude list MUST not have test additions or updates (see exception below for addressing newer Java SE versions).”

Some options to consider:

  • Alternate tests - Service release that include current test + alternate

  • Leave it up to the specification team to change the tests

PR to be created against the TCK Process to propose alternate language to the “How Tests May be Added to a TCK” section

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