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[] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - October 6th, 2021

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - October 6th, 2021 [1600 UTC]

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Kevin Sutter - IBM - Tom Watson, Emily Jiang

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage - Payara

Scott Stark - Red Hat - Mark Little, Scott Marlow

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member - Martijn Verburg

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton - Enterprise Member 


Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic, Paul Buck (chair), Wayne Beaton

Past business / action items:

  • Approval is requested for the meeting minutes from the September 22nd meeting as drafted - Approved.


  • Scheduling of future meetings

    • Ratify proposal made in the September 22nd call to revert the time for all Specification Committee calls back to 16:00 UTC, previously it was decided to alternate the start time of the call between 13:00 UTC and 16:00 UTC to increase participation from Asian members, it was commented that participation in the 13:00 calls is lower and in particular we miss the reps from the US west coast

      • Are there any objections? No objections. Call will revert back to 16:00 UTC on a biweekly basis.

  • Jakarta EE Spec Committee input to the 2022 Program Plan on the topic of 

    • Release Simplification

      • Initiatives can and will be organic and situational… this is BAU

      • Current focus is on the automation POC which is ongoing

      • TCK refactoring is underway and will continue in 2022

    • Implementation Neutrality

      • Progress was made in 9.1, and the Spec Committee’s resolution to not add and new optional features in EE 10

      • What about the existing optional features and providing for the sum of the implementations to satisfy the requirement to test all optional features?

      • A proof point is when other CI’s can be used for ratification of the Platform or Web Profile spec besides Glassfish 

    • Reminder October 19th is the Jakarta EE working group (members) call, and the week on October 13th is the community-wide call.

      • 13th call - Release 10 update or progress on individual specifications

      • 19th call’s focus Program Plan, request working group input on activities for 2022

  • Suggestion for future committee seat elections, publish the results broadly and include a reminder that more candidates is a good thing

  • Jakarta Config received the exception to use the CPL option, the Spec Committee Creation review ballot can be re-initiated with project

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