Tanja Obradovic wrote on 1/29/19 4:36 PM:
Hi Bill, All,
please see my responses inline.
Hope this helps.
Tanja
On 2019-01-29 5:29 p.m., Bill Shannon
wrote:
I find it very weird that the agenda and all past minutes are
just one long document. Am I the only one?
At least shouldn't the approved minutes be split off and
published separately, and somehow made available to the public?
I would argue you see all past minutes... The intention, and
ideal situation, is to only have past meeting minuets from one
previous meeting and the Agenda fro the upcoming call. Since you
see other, older meeting minutes from early January, that were
previously approved, that just means I did not get a
chance to publish them yet. Let me assure you it is on my
to-do-list. As soon as they get published they will be removed
from the document, and it will become a short document again.
Ok, if you're just behind, at least we agree on the intent! :-)
And is there any point in having the minutes include items that
were not discussed in the meeting? I suppose I could see having
a list of agenda items for the meeting, some of which were not
covered, but the minutes have much more detail than that.
I prefer to keep all items that still need discussion with
relevant relevant details for the context and future discussions.
I find often, after a revisiting items that were parked for a
while, we are not sure what was discussed last. If repetition
bothers you and others, I am open not to publish what was not
discussed in the meeting minutes, but would still prefer to keep
them on the long version of the Agenda until the item is closed.
I have no problem keeping them in the agenda, assuming they're
actually on the agenda, and not just being used as a parking
lot for issues that should be discussed someday.
For tomorrow's meeting, is there a presentation on the TCK
process or the Jakarta EE spec process? Who's giving it? Is
there a proposal we should be reviewing? Or is this just an
opportunity for open discussion? (I'm trying to understand the
path to closing on these items.)
I do not have any presentations lined up for tomorrow, however
we will continue conversation on TCK, from Red Hat and discuss
how to proceed next, as indicated at the end of the last call.
David Blevins is taking the lead here and will be helping with
this.
David, it would be helpful to have a written proposal from you, or a
written list of issues to discuss or questions to answer.
For Jakarta EE spec process, as before Wayne Beaton is leading
and he will provide an update on the progress and next steps.
The documents that can be reviewed are in the Agenda "long
document", and everyone should feel free to review them.
I feel free to review many things, but I only take the time to actually
review things that require review by some specific date. :-)
Wayne, it would also help to have something written from you.
Thanks.
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