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Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Agenda for Jakarta EE Specification Committee meeting, January 30th

Hi Bill, All,

please see my responses inline.

Hope this helps.

Tanja

On 2019-01-29 5:29 p.m., Bill Shannon wrote:
I find it very weird that the agenda and all past minutes are just one long document.  Am I the only one?
At least shouldn't the approved minutes be split off and published separately, and somehow made available to the public?

I would argue you see all past minutes... The intention, and ideal situation, is to only have past meeting minuets from one previous meeting and the Agenda fro the upcoming call. Since you see other, older meeting minutes from early January, that were previously approved, that just means I did not get a chance to publish them yet. Let me assure you it is on my to-do-list. As soon as they get published they will be removed from the document, and it will become a short document again.


And is there any point in having the minutes include items that were not discussed in the meeting?  I suppose I could see having a list of agenda items for the meeting, some of which were not covered, but the minutes have much more detail than that.
I prefer to keep all items that still need discussion with relevant relevant details for the context and future discussions. I find often, after a revisiting items that were parked for a while, we are not sure what was discussed last. If repetition bothers you and others, I am open not to publish what was not discussed in the meeting minutes, but would still prefer to keep them on the long version of the Agenda until the item is closed.

For tomorrow's meeting, is there a presentation on the TCK process or the Jakarta EE spec process?  Who's giving it?  Is there a proposal we should be reviewing?  Or is this just an opportunity for open discussion?  (I'm trying to understand the path to closing on these items.)

I do not have any presentations lined up for tomorrow, however we will continue conversation on TCK, from Red Hat and discuss how to proceed next, as indicated at the end of the last call. David Blevins is taking the lead here and will be helping with this.

For Jakarta EE spec process, as before Wayne Beaton is leading and he will provide an update on the progress and next steps. The documents that can be reviewed are in the Agenda "long document", and everyone should feel free to review them.


Thanks.


Tanja Obradovic wrote on 1/29/19 1:55 PM:

Hi All,

our call tomorrow is right after the Town Hall call for the community. Here is what I have on the agenda for tomorrow. The focus of the call should be TCK process and Jakarta EE process

  • Approval of Meeting min Jan 23rd

  • Jakarta EE Town Hall call for the community - short update

  • Java EE Specification Documents contribution from Oracle - short update

  • Jakarta EE 8 release - short update

  • TCK process

  • Jakarta EE Spec process

You can always refer to our full minutes / agenda document for details.

Regards,
Tanja
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Jakarta EE Program Manager | Eclipse Foundation, Inc.

Twitter: @TanjaEclipse

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