Skip to main content
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] [List Home]
Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Review for approval Spec CommitteeMeeting Minutes Dec 12th, 2018
I got a similar corrupt message like Werner.  It's because the message used charset ISO-2022-KR.  Are you currently visiting Korea, Kevin?  :-)

Anyway, yes, I'm still trying to work this issue.  Still, people should start thinking about what to do about the 2/3 of the specs that, even in the best case, won't be able to be contributed.


Tanja Obradovic wrote on 12/14/18 06:26 AM:

this is the message from Kevin Sutter...

Bill,
Although statements similar to this have been raised in the past, I always took the "brighter side" of the statements...  That is, you also indicated that you were continuing to work with your legal team and I was hoping that you would be able to convince them otherwise...  As this continues to drag out, I am getting less and less confident that we're going to get any significant subset of the specs.  And, as this has been discussed on our calls...  The recreation of these specs is going to be extremely time-consuming and error-prone.  We're already moving too slow in some people's minds (Jakarta EE in general) and this lack of specs could be the back breaker...  Just being honest...

On 2018-12-14 8:58 a.m., Werner Keil wrote:

Sorry I can’t read Japanese.

 

Could you send that again in a more understandable form(at)?

 

Thanks,

Werner

 

From: Kevin Sutter
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 14:47
To: Jakarta specification committee
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Review for approval Spec CommitteeMeeting Minutes Dec 12th, 2018

 

쇗禎?猖衒쉿聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟씸雩弛섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉿聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟씰妊寥竺?彩受孼蘖締猖樟藺?剃淸稶Š矮墮橓蘖賑稶抑彧淸?趙彩?刷投姮剃町淸??逐泉蕣遇搖奄猖鴨?逐泉Š湞淸?彩受孼蘖締?詢俎逗受稶?闔?刷蒼彧昻信輒?淸受闔?特鎭薪塼彧築蹟Š剃派姪巴淸闔瑃靭詣?輒殺灑?投?寥族蹟淸受闔?派蹙?橓飡靭剃Š薪專彧愼淸孼訂猥迭稶若?詢俎즙淸稶薪塼彧畜?剃曖淞諪拓殺銳諦彧?Š靭寨灑?靭寨薪跡藕蘖?淸受特??吳彧?剃銳?灑?猖吾迂芋灑?採詢淹Š湞淸?債憶此?詢俎즈亞修淸稶矮?橓蘖昻昌出暢?禎諪?信壹此?詢俎逗?Š鎭訊齬聽禎湞淸掩?債憶?稶吳彧?剃橓予滯孼諺?聽張薪塡蹴彧?灑?奄瓆止倧禎若Š?詢俎痢??刷鎭宋?獐拖蹟剃?脹鄭彧蒼張釣穽靭?樟賊?㉹頌釗疊탤Š彧銳赤賑姨灑?淸稶藺紳湞債憶?薪蹙?橓淸?恂紳蕣齬音池?詢俎減彩Š橓彧?寥赤彩섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉿聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟씔蕣쒔쇄贄距拖?屠諦奄쇄贄戇答?骨訊呈瓆鳶靭灑?乫快탤釗燼郁憶淺蕣얍奬雩??詢俎採諦奄쟘此羽字薪??詢俎?詢俎謄郁輒芷?詢俎잼罷朮輒誌蕣언寥赤?靑도난낭껐⑨連芋惹?뎔럇껨난낭껐⑨連芋惹?詢俎?詢俎쇄贄耕鏑抑咀섞烈塼씔?嶢臆숱搖替鑿判探一鏑抑彧薪孜彧音拖展採諦奄♥쇗禎?猖衒쉿聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟얕諦宗변判探一鏑抑彧薪孜彧音拖展採諦奄섞烈塼씔瀟쇄贄쇄贄쇄贄쇄贄쇗禎?猖衒쉽薪逸識５役役?聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟아瓆者?詢俎?詢俎?詢俎Š?詢俎섞烈塼씔烈塼猖衒쉽聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟씸雩?貸灑全??泉珣壹漲灑全樗綎率靭薪孕娛뻤烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識５役役?聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟앝浙?詢俎?詢俎?詢俎Š?詢俎섞烈塼씔烈塼猖衒쉽聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟않頌釗疊債憶迂芋受旭?Š薪牆郁輒??泉乳吟蛭貰檍債憶薪牆郁輒揚憶一宗若綎獵娛뺄戴訂?導釗??泉寨疊姪쟌抑矮斥薪孕娛뻤烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識５役役?聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟씻受佯?詢俎?詢俎?詢俎Š?詢俎섞烈塼씔烈塼猖衒쉽聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟쓩껏교껐구갤별?謹섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識５役役?聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟앙騶劉辛??詢俎?詢俎Š?詢俎?詢俎섞烈塼씔烈塼猖衒쉽聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟았佯筏頌釗疊檍債憶薪牆郁輒禦Š屢拖円烈?鎖倧貞刷到憶췹牆郁輒?袞淹彧?骨奠輒?콸?굉淸?껐구섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識５役役?聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟앙蘖?戌??詢俎?詢俎Š?詢俎?詢俎섞烈塼씔烈塼猖衒쉽聯愼숱愴塡暢侄歟얘頌釗疊檍債憶薪牆郁輒耶舜軸愼瓚憶一宗若綎煐烈塼씔蕣씔嶢全漲宋孃쇄贄쇄贄쇄贄쇗禎?猖衒슁앨掩?詢俎逗稶稶全?赤罷?率逮刷稔?灑?淸?껏?奠將奄Š投菖?昻昌出暢?彧淸受張淹彧嶸?詢俎逗受?柔彩?鎭釣受湞淸?彩受孼蘖?Š??奬鴨暢墮賑?聽張?彧淸?導檍侄蹟췹牆郁輒?張淹彧嶸쇄贄섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒슁앙薪諦導釗?破訂?禎굉교구낳납謹볼烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒슁앉矮?剃曖穽受?趙彩淸?寥瑃?蒼쮸壹?彩受孼蘖?Š禎淸?債憶薪塼侄醇聽禎?臧彩矮墮橓蘖奬鴨修?藺彩郁孼採牆釗廈?Š껏?湞淸?予稶聽蹟債憶?釗?全?吳彧?剃橓薪塼侄醇輒亞淸稶張灑?淸受Š淸余赤抑剃橓鎭訊齬輒?恂暢?禎蒼瑃愼薪鴨灑?淸?修緘?剃橓鴨輒帙彧抑Š薪琮侄預?淞鎭孼蘖?釗諪賊淸?乳快覇?翟張債率恙섞烈塼씔蕣씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒슁암?逗艸콸?교?껐구受렉눙죌杜適?穹賑埃拖??泉섞烈塼씔?嶢臆숱奬雩剃빌灑乳汀賑埃拖是憶一宗耶烈軸闇聽禎綎閻씔烈塼猖衒슁薪逸識筍畜씔邨疊適貰汀賑埃拖是憶一宗耶烈軸闇聽禎綎煐邨섞烈塼씔瀟쇗禎?猖衒슁쑥娛?Š破訂佯섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒슁씰壹Ъ烈塼씔助쇗禎?猖衒슁언靭修?鎭拖円淸?樟奠輒?烈?鎖倧貞刷赤慓特言콩拖亞Š鏃齬暢鎭拖円灑?靭?張依鄭迂灑?薪窒憶聽禎?釗?赤抑抑鎭詣進彧?淸?Š惇?薪專奄愴聽禎昻昌出猖禎섞烈塼씔助쇗禎?猖衒슁앎灑?淸灑懿【蕣씔烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒슉聯愼숱즘紆醫씔蓚到憶췹牆郁輒?袞淹彧?骨奠輒?콸?굉淸?Š껐구섞蓚섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉿聯愼숱즘紆醫씰諦蘖鴨掩⑩鎭暢塼彧舜隣㈉섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識４域域?聯愼숱즘紆醫알蘖宥擧狹臧賑폡宥締艸骨燼悚?Š콸橋薪藺섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識４域域?聯愼숱즘紆醫씻灑쭐賊奄?쫌?距拖?屠諦奄?Š쥴修闇煜膠諦彧預殺섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識４域域?聯愼숱즘紆醫씸雩?貸灑全?蕨率靭?토찜受拓Š쿠郁朕建桎雩貞섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識４域域?聯愼숱즘紆醫앙輒墮骨壹藕銳急啣賑?즘乳?Š頭悠?섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識４域域?聯愼숱즘紆醫앙薪諦導釗?屢?휼拓梱姪Š耕諦靭섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識４域域?聯愼숱즘紆醫씻囚藕쯧業彧?鈍樟滯羽爺Š累燼釗?工塡禎휼臆諺섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識４域域?聯愼숱즘紆醫앉快?헷勖彩宋謹?屢倧掩蘖疊聽墮섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識４域域?聯愼숱즘紆醫씰靭?逗檍埃?急蛭芋昱灑?Š袞將奄섞烈塼씔蕣씔烈塼猖衒쉽薪逸識４域域?聯愼숱즘紆醫액奄赤?距雩췹牆郁輒?袞將奄섞烈塼씔助숑苡쇱榕쇗禎?猖衒쉿聯愼숱즘紆醫압修?醇猖赤寨率聽禎郁孼撰烈塼씔蹙씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿聯愼숱즘紆醫씰拙瓆快?湞張淹彧?樟?膠?껴淸섞烈塼씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿聯愼숱즘紆醫앙薪諦導釗?獐墮亞쮸壹貸灑全?暢薪賊郁?Š全汀劉辛旭塡骨奠輒?鎖倧貞抑烈?悰筍稶僥蹟섞烈塼씔蹙씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿聯愼숱즘紆醫않頌釗疊탤鯉姪彧?헷諪?信壹?赤慓信壹Š乫?낡淸섞烈塼씔蹙씔一씔?嶢臆숱搖替鑿埃身吳瀞靭薪孜埃辰張塼啞깔驅휄域들璞初焞險除堆旴蛙察更虞諦남葵濁晛抑郁웅債쏢矮侄蹟?疊陳淹숱穡藺鏑♥쇗禎?猖衒쉿薪逸識０갤꿨?聯愼숱즘紆醫씔邨쥠蘖闇Š섞邨섞烈塼씔瀟섞蹙씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿않頌釗疊탤到憶倧淀掩?灑?乫吟蛭?탤膠堂?倧珽憶淺烈塼씔蹙씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿얄修抑禎섞烈塼씔?嶢臆숱搖替鑿埃身吳瀞靭薪孜埃辰張塼啞깎勘傾玟롓暴堅菹贇鍮橒連良폐聃晛聃夾唵퇘鮫眈抑郁웅債쏢矮侄蹟?疊陳淹숱穡藺鏑♥쇗禎?猖衒쉿薪逸識０갤꿨굶숑씽팰?Š仄갸邨섞烈塼씔瀟쇗禎?猖衒쉿쒀醇?全?赤愼寨釗雩?淸?愴張섞烈塼씔蹙씔一씔?嶢臆숱搖替鑿埃身吳瀞靭薪孜埃辰張塼啞깍儡詛爭吐鹿櫓樸脚利拿顫醇筑便찝깊품曷鎰挽抑郁웅債쏢矮侄蹟?疊陳淹숱穡藺鏑♥쇗禎?猖衒쉿薪逸識０갤꿨?聯愼숱즘紆醫씔邨툴殺鏃佯Š乫吟蛭?탤到憶迂芋受旭?埼淀掩?仄갸邨섞烈塼씔瀟섞蹙씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿액?巴壹出??詢俎乫吟蛭?탤膠堂?剃輒彩쇤쑥荻債뻤榕탬Š到憶埼淀掩?灑?埃辰彩碇澐受旭?迂赤愼寨釗?剃訊齬輒乫吟蛭?탤到憶Š埼淀掩此찬吳彧?淸瓆竺?淸?倧淀掩?巴淸乫吟蛭?탤膠堂檄特巴壹信從瑃?Š全輒?灑?業睛墮?曖松?湞淸?乫吟蛭?탤到憶迂芋受旭?埼淀掩此섞烈塼씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿않頌釗疊탤膠堂?倧貞稶旭迹蹟稶赤慓彩儼?特釗?投郁彧?Š禎볼烈塼씔蹙씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿씸正進鎖倧貞刷湞淸?赤??卒一實섞烈塼씔烈塼猖衒쉿薪逸識８꿔굡맘㉳鷗크섞烈塼씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿씰墺檍張塼?赤抑剃橓彧鏃率?ⓐ쳉?灑?輪僅?烈?倧珽憶?Š靭宋倧勖釗?薪牆郁輒?ⓗ碇郁侄橓㈋烈塼씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿씰墺檍張塼?烈?訂猥?薪牆郁輒膣ⓥ彦蹟悰膣畜?戌淸?Š탬袞將奄漲昱荳殺拖?暢趙賑輒燼灑赤壬ŧ섞烈塼씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿앝僥?稶予釣辛抑釗諪賊藺輒畸껐국섞烈塼씔蹙씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿앝猥嚴築快靭塼湞?殼?奬彧輒翟謫?鎭拖円赤抑?剃橓Š宋曖掩暢?ⓤ狎郁旭翟?全輒?膠?껴淸㈋烈塼씔蹙씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿액嫂赤剃嗽淸綎?曖松斥쭐暢?禎淸受派姪特信?鴨申鴨Š婆淹猥?郁稶趙蛭湞淸?乫吟蛭?탤到憶迂芋受旭?埼淀掩?綎?廉逮鎭Š墮膣旭?湞淸?탬唐섞烈塼씔蹙씔一씔烈塼猖衒쉿액?赤抑?Ž“쾡刷?灑?依汀?” document (possibly an FAQ) that details how a Working Group might extend the EFSP.

  • Suggestion to describe what is immutable.

·  TCK process - David Blevins

  • Refer to email “Understanding the Current Specification Process” and Understanding Current TCK Process
  • Completion of the TCK process no later than Jan 30th 2019
  • The topic of distribution of TCK via Maven Central was discussed
    • Compiled ZIP files can also be distributed via EF downloads server.
    • Some of these TCKs are quite large and are produced several times a year, so Sonatype may not be happy with us.
    • May consider using EF hosted Nexus instance
    • Do we need consumers to explicitly agree to any terms to get access to the TCK for a Ratified Final Specification? (e.g. some sort of click through)
      • “We gotta have an audit trail” - Dan Bandera

·  Werner - Dec 12th to provide an update on Jakarta EE NoSQL

  • Nothing to add. We’re waiting on documents to be signed. Hopefully we’ll have what we need in 2019Q1. There is effectively zero chance that we will be able to bootstrap NoSQL in 2018.

·  Java EE Specification Documents contribution from Oracle -> this is still being discussed, however for now the answer is NO

  • No news on this are expected in next little while  
  • Bill Shannon reported that the best case scenario is ⅓ specs will be contributed and ⅔ will not be (EJB and Servlet will not be contributed); criteria for deciding what specification can be contributed is not clear yet

--


_______________________________________________
jakarta.ee-spec.committee mailing list
jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/jakarta.ee-spec.committee

_______________________________________________
jakarta.ee-spec.committee mailing list
jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/jakarta.ee-spec.committee


 


_______________________________________________
jakarta.ee-spec.committee mailing list
jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/jakarta.ee-spec.committee
--

Tanja Obradovic

Jakarta EE Program Manager | Eclipse Foundation, Inc.

Twitter: @TanjaEclipse

Eclipse Foundation: The Platform for Open Innovation and Collaboration



Avast logo

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com 




_______________________________________________
jakarta.ee-spec.committee mailing list
jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/jakarta.ee-spec.committee

Back to the top