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[jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Review for approval Spec Committee Meeting Minutes Dec 12th, 2018

All,

please review the minutes for approval next week. David, please review and let me know if any corrections are needed regarding the TCK conversation / discussion.

Many thanks!

Spec Committee Meeting Minutes Dec 12th, 2018

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu, Michael DeNicola

Dan Bandera - IBM, Kevin Sutter, Alasdair Nottingham

Bill Shannon - Oracle, Ed Bratt, Dmitry Kornilov

Steve Millidge - Payara, Arjan Tijms

Scott Stark - Red Hat, Mark Little

David Blevins - Tomitribe, Richard Monson-Haefel

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Alex Theedom - Participant Member

Werner Keil - Committer Member


  • Past business / action items

    • Approval of meeting min Nov 28th

    • Scott Stark moved, Bill Shannon second it, no objections. Minutes approved for publishing

  • Jakarta EE Working Group calls - next call Jan 30th

  • Jakarta EE Spec process and Jakarta EE NoSQL project

    • based on EFSP v1.0, but not necessarily the same

    • We will use  Jakarta EE NoSQL to test  EF Spec Process and do customization if necessary to create Jakarta EE Spec Process.By going through the process with Jakarta EE NoSQL, we will capture notes and evolve a draft of the Jakarta EE Specification Process.

    • Jakarta EE NoSQL provisioning is next step; we are waiting on :

      • Board approval of the new IP policy (DONE)

      • Agreements need to be in place (MCCA and WGPA) for project lead/primary committer (Tomitribe)

      • Agreements for other committers (being pursued by the EF Membership Team via separate channels).

      • This is expected around late Q1 2019

    • The equivalent of a JCP maintenance review needs to be addressed (additional notes Nov 28th)

      • Wayne to author a draft. Based on that work we can decide whether it is part of the Jakarta EE Specification Process or a future version of the EFSP.

    • We need a “Dials and knobs” document (possibly an FAQ) that details how a Working Group might extend the EFSP.

      • Suggestion to describe what is immutable.

  • TCK process - David Blevins

    • Refer to email “Understanding the Current Specification Process” and Understanding Current TCK Process

    • Completion of the TCK process no later than Jan 30th 2019

    • The topic of distribution of TCK via Maven Central was discussed

      • Compiled ZIP files can also be distributed via EF downloads server.

      • Some of these TCKs are quite large and are produced several times a year, so Sonatype may not be happy with us.

      • May consider using EF hosted Nexus instance

      • Do we need consumers to explicitly agree to any terms to get access to the TCK for a Ratified Final Specification? (e.g. some sort of click through)

        • “We gotta have an audit trail” - Dan Bandera

  • Werner - Dec 12th to provide an update on Jakarta EE NoSQL

    • Nothing to add. We’re waiting on documents to be signed. Hopefully we’ll have what we need in 2019Q1. There is effectively zero chance that we will be able to bootstrap NoSQL in 2018.

  • Java EE Specification Documents contribution from Oracle -> this is still being discussed, however for now the answer is NO

    • No news on this are expected in next little while  

    • Bill Shannon reported that the best case scenario is ⅓ specs will be contributed and ⅔ will not be (EJB and Servlet will not be contributed); criteria for deciding what specification can be contributed is not clear yet

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Tanja Obradovic

Jakarta EE Program Manager | Eclipse Foundation, Inc.

Twitter: @TanjaEclipse

Eclipse Foundation: The Platform for Open Innovation and Collaboration



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